Redemption for Jessika (En, Sp, Fr, It, Ge)

[quietboy87778]

Such a beautiful and wonderful game! I HAD to get all the achievements so I could see the bonus scenes! A lot of work was put into this and it shows! Bravo! I cannot wait to see more!

[Vsevolod]

Thank you for the feedback, folks. Everyone likes different things, and it's fine that you didn't like this. To help me, though, can people who felt the story wasn't very good point me at erotic games that had stories they liked?

Tlaero

I feel awkward for criticizing you, since you are both great artists who put a lot of effort into your work. Still I hope you will find my critics useful. My favorite games are ones with Keisha, I liked Daydreaming with Elsa a lot, and also Goblinboy's Meteor and School Dreams, BBBen's Pervert Action Crisis (the story, I dislike manga models), Pandora develops nicely, and LOP Living with Temptation, House Party and Sylvia&Nick are great, both visually and narratively.

Now, when I said RfJ is linear, it means lack of choices and alternative paths. I would really like to skip witnessing lesbian sex which I find dull and a turn off, and although at one point Marc offers to allow them privacy, he can't avoid watching them. Then also when Marc meets Jessika, he has only one path he can follow and be more or less successful in it. Why can't he find some secret about her fantasies, or incidentally say something that would trigger some chain of events? Maybe a cab driver could kidnap them both and take them to some place (but they should also have a choice whether to walk back home)... or prosecutor with his wife can start something with them...

And btw band Mayhem exists and is pretty well known internationally https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayhem_(band)

[EscapeEvade]

Alas, no. The last time I worked on the storage aspect of these games, they were considerably shorter, and the thought of needing saves past a playthrough didn't occur to me. I see why people would want to export them now, though. I'll add that to the list of things to do.

Tlaero

Darn. Hopefully that becomes an option in the future.

[benedict]

I hated the first sex scene. It was literally shoved down the PC's throat. He was greeted with hostility, treated as a pig if he dared take a peek at Sarah's tits, even though Sarah has a cleavage the size of Grand Canyon and then objectified as a sex tool used to amplify the girls' sexual pleasure. He was never asked for his consent and he still acted like they were doing him a favor by allowing him to watch, when in fact it was him doing them a favor by indulging selflessly in their kinks. I was looking for the "Walk out" option but sadly coundn't find it as I'm not a big fan of lesbian sex and even if I was I would've been mad if I went to visit someone and 2 minutes later they started fucking in front of me without asking if I'm fine with that.

What also annoyed me was that Marc was always asking for permission before doing anything. Jessica never asks him, if she feels like kissing him or touching him she just does it. I had the following dialogue play in my head while going through the scenes:
- Ok, Marc, you can touch my ass now.
- Oh my, thank you mistress.

There can be no meaningful relationship between Marc and Jessica beside a master/slave one and even that should quickly bore her.

[EscapeEvade]

I don't quite agree about Marc and Jessica, but I do somewhat agree about Marc and Sylvia/Sarah. Like I said in an earlier post, I'd like to think that huge warning klaxons would be going off in Marc's head if he heard the proposition those two made. Now, after some dialog, if it was still an option, I think it makes sense for Marc to stay and indulge them, but it feels like Sylvia and Sarah kind of barge past that.

[pzrgren]

As someone who has played so many of the games from this site and others over the years this was one of the best, high quality in visuals, characters and story. It kept me wanting to revisit just to play the same parts again, a first for me.

Please continue.

[tlaero]

Isn't every sex scene shoved down your throat? When Jess starts to strip, I don't give you an option to say, "No, let's watch a movie instead," or anything like that.

Tlaero

[Mortze]

When Jess starts to strip, I don't give you an option to say, "No, let's watch a movie instead," or anything like that.

One does not simply stop a gorgeous girl when she's stripping

[azerukaze]

Isn't every sex scene shoved down your throat? When Jess starts to strip, I don't give you an option to say, "No, let's watch a movie instead," or anything like that.

Tlaero

I was wondering why you didn't do that.
Jessica
"Lets do it on the piano."
Marc
1. "Let's do it, baby girl."
2. "Why don't we do it in the studio instead? Better yet, on Sarah's drum set! wink wink"
3. "Nah, I'm cool."

On another note, I get where benedict's coming from, different people have different preferences. Probably it might've been better to give the option to politely walk out or refuse instead of just watching the show or be the lewd guy. By refusing or walking out, you can use different lines when Sylvia comes visit on Monday. Personally, I would prefer the option of Marc touching himself (Sarah didn't say he can't) or at least thinking about touching himself. I know it would mean more work for you and Mortze but I think it'll add some kind of realism to the whole situation.

[jk103]

Isn't every sex scene shoved down your throat? When Jess starts to strip, I don't give you an option to say, "No, let's watch a movie instead," or anything like that.

Tlaero

Giving the player an actual choice about these sorts of things really makes a difference in how they experience the rest of the game, and how they feel about controlling the main character especially. IMO this is probably why a lot of the more common complaints are about Marc - he's just sort of along for the ride, unless he says something dumb and gets kicked out of the car. He never gets to drive or even pick a destination.

[tlaero]

You guys really want the option to turn down sex in the game? Is it that you just want a bypass ("skip to the end") so you don't have to see it, or do you want the male character to say no to the sex and have the female character react to this? If the latter and her reaction is negative, does that mean I'm still forcing you to do the sex scenes?

Tlaero

[Hoboy]

I'm having a hard time understanding where this thread is going. This is about a game written allowing access to different sexual encounters. If you were not wanting sexual encounters in a game, then why are you playing/interacting with it? If the lesbian encounter was such a turn off, just skip it or leave the game. YOU have control of what content you see. Creators create. Others are consumers. Some are critics. I have been consuming for some years and am not at the critic level yet (getting close tho...)

[Hoboy]

Oh - and i just realized i never really got to thank Tlaero and Mortze for this wonderful game. I think I mentioned it moved me like Katana Shoujo did in story, but adding in graphics of this caliber moves this to the top level of what I see in the realm of free AIF/adult games. I think Goblinboy would like what you've been doing..

[benedict]

Isn't every sex scene shoved down your throat? When Jess starts to strip, I don't give you an option to say, "No, let's watch a movie instead," or anything like that.

Tlaero

You misunderstand my gripe with the first scene. I don't mind lesbian sex in games and the scene was definitely very good. It was the build-up to the scene that I find horribly mismanaged. As people pointed out, in these games you try to identify with the PC and try to play the way you would act if it was you instead. Now, if I was invited for dinner at a colleague's house and instead of dinner 2 minutes after I'm there he starts having sex, I'd just get out and avoid seeing him/her ever again. It's just not realistic. The comparison with the sex scenes with Jessica is wrong, since Marc is interested in having sex with her, so she doesn't need to ask him if he actually wants to do it.
For me the proper way with handling the first scene was for Sarah to send Sylvia away for a couple of minutes, then tell Marc that Sylvia has a fetish for being watched while having sex and ask him if he would be willing to help by being a silent observer. You don't even need to give a "No" option. That way you'll give the impression that the girls respect Marc and actually care about his opinion and you'll give the illusion that he has a choice.

[danigonz]

Although I have the game since a few weeks ago, I haven't be able to play it more than a couple of times. In fact, I still haven't managed to succed in the lewd path, I'm obviously a good boy after all...

But I loved the game. Even if I'm a bit late, I'll give a few considerations:

-Tlaero demostrates again that the more developed the characters and situations are, the more sexy the game is.

-I love text. Text gives context and makes everything more arousing. I hate sex games which only says "fuck her", "quickier", "slower" and "cum". The way Tlaero describes movements, feelings and sensations during sex scenes make them miles ahead the ones in the rest of games.

-Marc is a great character, I don't understand why do anyones think about him
as a weak guy.

He even takes care of a bomb!

He is not the usual senseless macho-man showed in so many games, and that's nice. I also love he is a cool guy who wears glasses: I loathe that stupid topic of portraying guys with glasses always as nerds or shy people! (Yes, I do wear glasses )

-Jess is really hot. Strong and fragile: very human. And I loved the way Mortze portrayed her: she's pretty but she isn't the usual hot babe of a sexy game. I even see something ethnic in her, a bit Middle East look. I really admire the way he depicts her facial expressions. And her bush

-I don't mind the "touch here" interface of the last sex scene, but I don't find it specially appealing.

-I liked the storyline, although I found a couple of scenes a little forced, but I won't complain. Let me explain: in previous Tlaero's games, the sex always came in a very organic way. Even if it was wilder, the story always managed to reach that point with grace and fluidity: for example, the foursome at the end of Christine was justified by her wild nature and the sexual oddissey the game explains; the threesomes of Keisha are justified as the memory of a time of sexual experimentation during the university; the roleplay or the office blowjob in Keeley are part of her fight for recovering her marriage. In Jessica, almost all the scenes flow the same way, but I find the first lesbian scene

and the MMF threesome

a bit rushed and more "from the magical world of Porn". But I won't complain because they're really nice and hot scenes by their own merits.

It's always a pleasure to play Tlaero and mortze's games. They put a lot of attention to detalil and, above all, they produced games starred by real characters, no simple sexy puppets.