Redemption for Jessika (En, Sp, Fr, It, Ge)

[Stormy]

Thanks for the game, the graphics look improved than the previous titles, I like the details as well. but the story is quite bad. seems like a desperate man who does whatever he is asked for getting laid. lol

[moskys]

Hey! What's wrong with Bond vilains??

C'mon. You're wearing a Stormtrooper helmet. Of course you don't see what's wrong with them From a Stormtrooper standpoint they probably look like invincible crime gods, but let me tell you this: they aren't. They are just a bunch of stupid, egocentric and useless windbags with an incredible talent for mismanagement, not to mention their dreadful recruiting policy and clearly ineffective shooting training system. Hey, just like the Galactic Empire

First of all, tremendous game. Was motivated to write a lengthy post after playing, but realized the praise was pretty well covered here, so I'll just say that the significant discussion of Marc and his "merits" are a testament to how amazing this game is. I mean, how many games have we played where we cared enough to debate the intricacies of the characters to this degree? You've created such a wonderful game here that people actually care when the limited options aren't pitch-perfect compared to the idealization we've created while playing. Whenever options become even mildly disappointing, it usually means the majority were sufficiently engaging for players to become entrenched in the plot and characterization. Bravo.

Fully agree. This whole discussion is a proof of your success as game developers

As for what Jess sees in him. It's not that he's "nice" (Blah). Yeah, she was impressed with the tally she made about him on Monday morning when she found him on the couch. And, yeah, his immunity got his foot in the door, so to speak. (An aside on that, a very common problem for famous people is that they don't know who is "real" and who is after them for their fame. When Jess discovered her power, she became acutely aware of that problem.) But the relationship is just starting. We're talking about a week of time here. She's got her man-hating best friend saying good things about him. He's sweet, funny, supportive, and a little sexual. She finds him attractive. He's not self-centered like the last guy. He puts her above himself. And he's a possible way out of the destructive cycle she's ashamed to be in. Why wouldn't she go on a few dates with him? If I were a single rock star, I certainly would... (-:

And he has a big cock. That also matters, don't need to hide it

[sanchy]

Tlaero and Mortze, for me, this is your best game so far. Your graphic realy improved, and the story is great, but unfortunately there is no lot to do with main character, you should give us more free will. Models are almost perfect, as are the sex scenes. Again, congratulations!

[Spruce]

I loved playing this game. The story is very very attractive and nicely done. The graphics was great and i loved playing with Jessika.
I haven't played so good erotic game very long because i haven't seen any games which is done this good as yours. I like these games which have the story like this where you could just choose right answers fo conversations. Also there is done good job with the characters, especially Jessica which fascinated me most. The one of the best erotic game i have ever played, thats what i say.

Hope to see your other games soon, like Pandora II.
GREAT JOB!

[Skelaturi]

To describe how i feel about the game i have to quote my playlist. Which started playing "god is a girl - groove coverage" the moment i finished the game. And Mortze isn't that bad either "wink".

edit. Question any reason, that the download for Rfj isn't a clickable link in the 1st post?

I am still standing behind what i said here, i find that with all these games Tlaero should no longer be named Lady T, but instead "Goddess". That said time for my post. Be warned its going to be long, full of speculations, spoilers and comparisons. And i had to reread posts, replay RFJ to full completion, replay DWE to full completion before i was going to go more in depth.

First of love the game, but what i even love more is this universe that has been created, i am actually said Mortze is needed for rendering images. Cause i really want to know how the story ends, and how "all" the characters develop. And for me looking past that in games and anime that are mostly attracting players/viewers cause of promises of nudity is a true feat.

Now about development, i read here about people finding "Marc" weak. And i disagree with that,

in comparison to the strong women (Jess, Sylvia, Sarah) he looks weaker, cause he is just a simple scribe that is known to friends and coworkers as being obsessed by 1 woman. But he is friendly, gentle while humans are mostly following the herd. It takes strength to not go with the pack named coworkers that go all perv on Sylvia. It takes strength to make someone that's in a depression like Jessika to get her out of it and make her feel comfortable and forgive herself like he did. He is also self aware, that in comparison to Jessika he is not something special. This "weakness" attracts me, like it usually does in quite a bit of anime/manga's/light novels that i watch and read. And it leaves room for characters to develop themselves in the future. Now i can guess that the leading ladies are coming back in future chapters. And I'll be honest, i would be sad if these leading men are going to be left out in the future or would not improve themselves. Cause what's unclear for me how come Marc has become immune and that is something i really would like to find out.

Jessika, i really can't say anything what already has not already been sad.

She is well developed and goes some interesting changes. From a artist who has everything, having one night stands. To a sad woman who blames herself. To a person who is saved and becomes more serious with the relationship with Marc

Some other appearing characters, spoilers and speculations.

Miranda: Considering how she reacts to the player as she already knows everything, i am thinking that she has the power of seeing things before it happens. Considering the short intro's we saw in the "next game topic" She put out a code that was a complete new hacker attack. My guess she saw a hacker attack happening and reacted to it. Now "finding Miranda" is looking like a chase that Lucas has to do, how do you find someone that knows future events that are going to happen?. Also we saw her at Elsa's bookstore so in the time between DWE and RFJ something happened that she ended up at Elsa's. Next is the blind woman that stand on the side of Good. She mentioned in the ending to Jessika that she learned to late about the Riot at the concert. i am thinking Miranda saw it happening at the ending of that game that still has to come, but only after she was found.

Chloe: My poor sweet Chloe, some already mention that she deserves her own game. And i am thinking that, that is the plan all along. She is being used by evil against her will, at least that's what i am getting from the ending of the Lewd path. She needs someone that frees her of that evil, and i hope that will happen. Considering she is saying that Marc was her 2nd assignment i am expecting in 1 theory that she will not appear in Miranda's game. That is if finding Miranda is happening before the RFJ chapter. But on the other end, it could be she was working on her own in DWE and after that she was caught. She made some sort of agreement with the bigger evil and she ended up like this.
PS if you lot still need a hero for her, i will send Mortze a picture of me. I am still loving that little redhead

Sylvia and Sarah; Real love is always find their ways, and the bonus scene with them, really was a bonus. Considering what happens early game with the watching bit. And the look on Sarah's face when Jessika was playing music again was priceless.

Charles: Still some mystery with this bad guy and i like it. I am thinking he is not the big evil but just a pawn, and i have to wonder how come he is immune to the singing of Jessika. And where will he appear again. Also while Chloe is sad about her tasks, he was clearly shown with a smile on his face fighting. Also I replayed DWE just for this guy. Was wondering if maybe he looked a bit like the thug in the 1st dream. And that perhaps it wasn't that friend of Jason's. But i was wrong.

All said, the game for me was a real roller coaster of feelings. And even if there was no sex in it, i still would have loved the game. And i can't wait for the next chapter in this story.
And with all of this and the renders i feel there has been a new bar set for creators of sexy games. And i hope other creators learn from this. 1 wise lesson: if you have a great partner you can make some serious stuff together.
Now 1 more speculation thing

Pandora we all know its Mortze's solo project. But i am at a point to think that the story of Pandora takes place prior to all of this. And that the box gets opened on a bad cannon ending and leads to the results of power being spread to the leading girls and a great evil escaping and wanting to unleash chaos. Now its more likely they are just separate projects, but if we find out in the future that this is going to be the case. here is the "i told you so".

I still have this feeling this post does not do right to the story, but i can't put my finger on it, what i miss that i should have said.

PS. Fun joke aside, but there was a thought last week going through my head that under that storm trooper mask there was a Goblins face.
PPS. I seen a of really big posts here, discussions and all of this in this topic. By frequent lagooners, new lagooners and creators. I believe that shows how great this game and the overall story is. And i look forward to reading more below this and topics about the future chapters.

[ltpika]

I think Marc comes off as a generic cipher as a function of the game's decision system. Sure people tell us things about him but you can act completely counter to that, so there's no real cohesive feel to the character. I feel like if this was a Telltale game with full voice acting that wouldn't be an issue, because in Walking Dead, Lee always "felt" like Lee even when he was rude or humorous because of the performance by his actor keeping the character grounded. In order to get the same thing across with writing is really difficult. I think giving the character a unique way of speaking or giving them an ethnic identity rather than the typical bald white dude could help give them more of a unique voice (I literally just played another game before this one where it was another dude with a shaved head...hair is tough to render but the baldness just ends up reminding me of mannequins.) Plus 99% of protagonists in game here are white, I'd like some more representation.

I like the way Pandora worked because the systems of shyness and perversion worked because Kean is just that...a shy perverted guy. Plus his nerdiness was a major part of his dialogue (geek references abound) so his personality is more consistent.

All that said, I love the complex decision system so I'll accept the "blank slate" nature of the protagonists in these games. The girls are the main draw to get people to play the game and they were executed very well, that's good enough for me. I don't play for the dudes. I just bring this up to try and be helpful.

[Spike1981]

how to i get the Foursome?

[lurking]

how to i get the Foursome?

The three-and-a-half-some is in the bonus scene.

[Spruce]

The achievement scene was pretty awesome imo. Nicely done with the achievement system cause it push you to play through all choices in the game to gather the achievements and get the final scene and see which surprise it's hides behind this and i liked this one.

[Dasati]

To describe how i feel about the game i have to quote my playlist. Which started playing "god is a girl - groove coverage" the moment i finished the game. And Mortze isn't that bad either "wink".

edit. Question any reason, that the download for Rfj isn't a clickable link in the 1st post?

I am still standing behind what i said here, i find that with all these games Tlaero should no longer be named Lady T, but instead "Goddess". That said time for my post. Be warned its going to be long, full of speculations, spoilers and comparisons. And i had to reread posts, replay RFJ to full completion, replay DWE to full completion before i was going to go more in depth.

First of love the game, but what i even love more is this universe that has been created, i am actually said Mortze is needed for rendering images. Cause i really want to know how the story ends, and how "all" the characters develop. And for me looking past that in games and anime that are mostly attracting players/viewers cause of promises of nudity is a true feat.

Now about development, i read here about people finding "Marc" weak. And i disagree with that,

in comparison to the strong women (Jess, Sylvia, Sarah) he looks weaker, cause he is just a simple scribe that is known to friends and coworkers as being obsessed by 1 woman. But he is friendly, gentle while humans are mostly following the herd. It takes strength to not go with the pack named coworkers that go all perv on Sylvia. It takes strength to make someone that's in a depression like Jessika to get her out of it and make her feel comfortable and forgive herself like he did. He is also self aware, that in comparison to Jessika he is not something special. This "weakness" attracts me, like it usually does in quite a bit of anime/manga's/light novels that i watch and read. And it leaves room for characters to develop themselves in the future. Now i can guess that the leading ladies are coming back in future chapters. And I'll be honest, i would be sad if these leading men are going to be left out in the future or would not improve themselves. Cause what's unclear for me how come Marc has become immune and that is something i really would like to find out.

Jessika, i really can't say anything what already has not already been sad.

She is well developed and goes some interesting changes. From a artist who has everything, having one night stands. To a sad woman who blames herself. To a person who is saved and becomes more serious with the relationship with Marc

Some other appearing characters, spoilers and speculations.

Miranda: Considering how she reacts to the player as she already knows everything, i am thinking that she has the power of seeing things before it happens. Considering the short intro's we saw in the "next game topic" She put out a code that was a complete new hacker attack. My guess she saw a hacker attack happening and reacted to it. Now "finding Miranda" is looking like a chase that Lucas has to do, how do you find someone that knows future events that are going to happen?. Also we saw her at Elsa's bookstore so in the time between DWE and RFJ something happened that she ended up at Elsa's. Next is the blind woman that stand on the side of Good. She mentioned in the ending to Jessika that she learned to late about the Riot at the concert. i am thinking Miranda saw it happening at the ending of that game that still has to come, but only after she was found.

Chloe: My poor sweet Chloe, some already mention that she deserves her own game. And i am thinking that, that is the plan all along. She is being used by evil against her will, at least that's what i am getting from the ending of the Lewd path. She needs someone that frees her of that evil, and i hope that will happen. Considering she is saying that Marc was her 2nd assignment i am expecting in 1 theory that she will not appear in Miranda's game. That is if finding Miranda is happening before the RFJ chapter. But on the other end, it could be she was working on her own in DWE and after that she was caught. She made some sort of agreement with the bigger evil and she ended up like this.
PS if you lot still need a hero for her, i will send Mortze a picture of me. I am still loving that little redhead

Sylvia and Sarah; Real love is always find their ways, and the bonus scene with them, really was a bonus. Considering what happens early game with the watching bit. And the look on Sarah's face when Jessika was playing music again was priceless.

Charles: Still some mystery with this bad guy and i like it. I am thinking he is not the big evil but just a pawn, and i have to wonder how come he is immune to the singing of Jessika. And where will he appear again. Also while Chloe is sad about her tasks, he was clearly shown with a smile on his face fighting. Also I replayed DWE just for this guy. Was wondering if maybe he looked a bit like the thug in the 1st dream. And that perhaps it wasn't that friend of Jason's. But i was wrong.

All said, the game for me was a real roller coaster of feelings. And even if there was no sex in it, i still would have loved the game. And i can't wait for the next chapter in this story.
And with all of this and the renders i feel there has been a new bar set for creators of sexy games. And i hope other creators learn from this. 1 wise lesson: if you have a great partner you can make some serious stuff together.
Now 1 more speculation thing

Pandora we all know its Mortze's solo project. But i am at a point to think that the story of Pandora takes place prior to all of this. And that the box gets opened on a bad cannon ending and leads to the results of power being spread to the leading girls and a great evil escaping and wanting to unleash chaos. Now its more likely they are just separate projects, but if we find out in the future that this is going to be the case. here is the "i told you so".

I still have this feeling this post does not do right to the story, but i can't put my finger on it, what i miss that i should have said.

PS. Fun joke aside, but there was a thought last week going through my head that under that storm trooper mask there was a Goblins face.
PPS. I seen a of really big posts here, discussions and all of this in this topic. By frequent lagooners, new lagooners and creators. I believe that shows how great this game and the overall story is. And i look forward to reading more below this and topics about the future chapters.

You make some interesting points, thought I'd chime in my 2 cents on a few of them.

Miranda: Unless I'm misremembering Tlareo's posts in a diff thread I think the timeline is DWE - RFJ - Finding Miranda. We know from DWE that initially Elsa was basically an introvert who never left the shop. In the RFJ scene she makes a comment about her friend Miranda, the easy back and forth between them implies they comfortable with each other to me. So I'd speculate either a good amount of time has passed between end of DWE and RFJ or Elsa and Miranda have some kind of pre-existing relationship, maybe old friends and Miranda's just moved to the city? Also with Miranda's power/ability whatever it is, I'm not sure her being able to see the future would fit. Both Jessica and Elsa's powers involve some sort of mental affect on others (Elsa's manipulating dreams, Jessica's affecting peoples mental state) from what little we know about Miranda hers seems to involve perception in some form. Maybe I'm reading to much into it but she also says to Marc as he's leaving, something like "if your girlfriend is who I think it is, she needs support" she clearly has no issue with showing her perceptiveness, so the fact she didn't outright say "Jessica" would seem to discredit the seeing the future idea.

Chloe: If I'm remembering the dialogue from the lewd path correctly, Chloe mentions she's already failed in one assignment (presumably getting the book off Elsa) so this second failure (assuming nice guy path is canon) is bad news for her. I don't think we ever saw/were told if Chloe was immune to Jessica's power or not. One possibility is when the blind woman convinced Jessica to work with her, she was talking about using Jess's power to calm down potential recruits. She also implies that would be needed quite soon, so maybe the blind woman intends to recruit Chloe, whose probably freaking out about failing the big evil twice and plans to get Jess to calm her down so they can talk?

Charles: Doesn't the blind woman outright say that Charles is just a pawn? Makes me wonder who the big bad is, also his agents, we've seen Chloe try to mess up things with Elsa, Chloe and Charles messed with Jessica. So presumably there'll be another agent/'s who try to mess with Miranda. Given her perceptive abilities I wonder if it'll be just another ordinary person manipulated into doing the evil ones bidding, or will it be someone with a power of their own willingly help the big bad.

[tlaero]

While I'll neither confirm nor deny anything that isn't already public, I'm enjoying reading the speculation. Keep it up. (-:

One thing I will say, though, is that RfJ takes place after the events of DwE. The next game's timeframe, however, has not been disclosed.

Tlaero

[Skelaturi]

While I'll neither confirm nor deny anything that isn't already public, I'm enjoying reading the speculation. Keep it up. (-:

One thing I will say, though, is that RfJ takes place after the events of DwE. The next game's timeframe, however, has not been disclosed.

Tlaero

i know it takes after the events of DwE, before release of RfJ you answered that on my timeline question ^^. And yes, agree with speculation talk, like its some sort of highly watched television series.

[Nezumi]

Could someone please post (or point to if it was mentioned earlier in this massive thread ) a walkthrough for the lewd side, I tried a couple of times but just can't bring myself to be such an arsehole to these wonderful women again.

From what I have played though, this is just another wonderful game which is brilliantly written and the art work is to die for. To add my two cents to the way Marc is portrayed, I don't think he is weak, he is just the right person for the situation. It is just that he is not as fleshed out as the women are, a bit more of his background, either in the writing or even just a glimpse of his apartment would be great.

[Meushi]

Could someone please post (or point to if it was mentioned earlier in this massive thread ) a walkthrough for the lewd side

As usual, Deus ExLibris covers this, scroll down to the bad path section.

[nutzbutz]

nutzbutz, just to make absolutely sure, you unzipped rfj.zip after you downloaded it, right? If you just double-clicked the file it would have opened up and you would have seen a start.htm. But if you clicked that, it would have behaved the way you're describing. Right click the rfj.zip and say "extract all".

Iksanabot, I hate to throw cold water on you, but I'm far less sexually interesting in real life than my games suggest.

ihutch, thank you. Jtue (end to end) is my favorite scene in any of my games. Especially:

The fact that she has sex with you and then there's a check to see if you're good enough to do the really hard thing. That says so much to me.

Mortze nailed those images.

Moskys, Mortze deserves the credit for "Has anybody seen my baby." That was his suggestion.

Okay, I may talk about Marc next. We'll see how I feel after dinner.

Tlaero

Hi Tlaero....finally got it to work. my bad.. i didn't know about the extract all option as all the other games open by just clicking...thanks for your patience and i'm going to totally enjoy the game ....cheers