Himeros Hotel - Adult Adrift Adventure 1.04

[Skelaturi]

@Skeleturi
I think it might be a RAGS game. I don't recall off the top of my head with certainty. Either way, the exact same image of the waitress was used in some other fairly recent game/alpha and I think her name was Cassidy or similar in that one.

thing is i can't remember playing such a game, and as i said. It was a paranoid dream. And believe me she wasn't blonde. I'll just wait till a few months later when Setzworks deceided to put a extra waitress in who isn't a blonde and calls her Cassie / Cassidy. 2 minues after i seen her i gone coocoo

[Seztworks]

Hello again redle. You continue to make excellent points. I will answer/comment below the spoiler. Don't know if you have seen the PM from me

- Good point about help. I will maybe reword the start page with a request to read the basic commands used in this game. Some of them are pretty obscure to guess and very much unique to the game.
- I have added info to the intro about eating. Will expand if needed.
- Same as the first point. Until I have found a way to implement a somewhat safe 1 hour jump I will point to help. But very much a known issue.
- I take the note about time in conversation to heart. Will clean that up. AM/PM is not part of my life so that wont be used anywhere
- Computer use is fixed in next version. A lot more common commands implemented. Including use computer, use laptop
- Good points about the food task. Will look into failure cases and streamline it.
- Sleep being locked to evening hours is somewhat to keep the player active. (Work, work, sleep on repeat until rich would be something I hope to avoid). Over time other energy refill options will be added and a lot of low energy tasks also. (Inside baseball - you have unlimited time to complete the game and get the best ending but there might be optional stuff that could be missed if time is wasted without regard.)
- Will look into making the Bus an object. More routes will open up over time. Makes sense.
- Letting players start eating from anywhere would break some events as it stands. If needed using the map to jump back to the lounge is a better option. At least you can see any events you may have passed traveling there.
- Making the lounge kitchen an object is very doable.
- Uniform picture is correct. That one is 100% me being lazy.
- I was thinking the name tag is on the desk. But good point about details
- Scruffy!!

- Somewhat related. I have lowered some costs and added more credit income in the next release. Should lower grind a lot.

[redle]

Hello again redle. You continue to make excellent points. I will answer/comment below the spoiler. Don't know if you have seen the PM from me

- Letting players start eating from anywhere would break some events as it stands. If needed using the map to jump back to the lounge is a better option. At least you can see any events you may have passed traveling there.

Yeah, that isn't overly surprising. Navigation at present is trivial enough anyway. That said, depending on how the events are implemented, some of them might be broken anyway.

Most events seem to be triggered upon entering a room. Take Celeste's groceries as an example. If time progresses from 13 to 14 while I am already in the Lounge, the event will not trigger. I must leave the room and walk back in. Since working already relocates us into the Lounge, this is the location we will start at most frequently. It means that events that are triggered by us coming here are the least likely to ever be triggered, because we are already in the room, not entering it.

A bug I forgot

Eating times are wrong/confusing a bit.
Breakfast 7-8 means eat at 7
Lunch 11-12 means eat at 12
This does not match. As much as it is easy enough to figure out how/when to eat once you understand it, initially I took it to mean that I had a little bit of leeway in eating times (i.e. I could eat breakfast at 7 or 8). I don't see any reason to list the 1 hour window as it can only add confusion. Why not simply say, "Breakfast is served at 7 sharp"? Same with lunch and dinner obviously.

Still on eating though... maybe you consider finding the kitchen an important learning puzzle early on. Personally I'd just give it to the player as a freebie (although I know you are changing some things to make the puzzle more clear, so it may not matter nearly as much). My point being, it would all have been cleared up by simply being a bit less witty with the retort. Where currently the game says something like, "don't you think it would be easier to eat if you were in a kitchen?" why not just be blatant (or for that matter, treat the player like the clueless new employee)? "Celeste's demeaning voice comes streaming from your badge, 'Staff does NOT perform personal tasks in view of the guests. What do you think an employee lounge is for?'"

[Seztworks]

Bonus. Thanks.

You are so right about the events triggering on entrance. I have added a lead in event to the lounge events at a time where you would want to be in the lounge anyway to double up on finding out about them.
The time intervals are leftovers from a very early version. Will fix asap. Same with eating hints.

Btw. Love the Scruffy speculations. Makes my day.

[Skelaturi]

He "snip"

- Somewhat related. I have lowered some costs and added more credit income in the next release. Should lower grind a lot.

my input

while its atm a grind, keep in mind your stil adding stuff into the game. Would be extra work for you if you have to redo your changes cause in future implentations; player promotions (work as cleaner, work as bellboy, work in kitchen, work as gigolo) have been added, other sources of income (my 1st thought with camera, badge, computer, scruffy - seling him nude picturesof the girls for extra cash. kinda already is there) maybe even gambling its a hotel after all with special services i can imagine it has its own casino.

The grind currently only feels like a grind cause there is so little do to, but its an early alpha. I think the current setup would feel less like a grind the more you progress.

and about eating what redle said about eating and Celeste about her domination nature and the clueless player might work, it gives immersion and help without having to use the command "help". But also can be done with the other employees.

[Seztworks]

Righty.

The costs have been lowered for the first couple items. No need to do nothing but work for a week to get the laptop. That is one of the first story blocks for several paths so early access is preferred.
Extra income kicks in later when the more expensive items start to show up. Computer/Bedroom stuff.
Should still be ok. Just slightly faster startup.

I will look into using characters more for corrections/hints. Good point.

[braspol]

i accepted the groceries task how do i get on the bus

[Dole]

i accepted the groceries task how do i get on the bus

travel to market

[Dole]

Bug
Wrong answers

ask zoe about model`s name
My name is Zoe she says while pointing at her name badge


Others told before I do it aso.

I hope your commands and hints/helps are better in the next release (for me it is very difficult to find the correct commands).

Aso the ask commands I don´t know what I can ask more as I done.

Aso Zoe is in my room and now I don´t know. When I ask something she don´t know it no event trigger so why she is there.

Aso I don´t worked 3 days (I think 2 days I bought the groceries) and nothing only do it not again and -25$. I thought she get really angry or something and nothing.

Aso I see nothing after I make the meals. No event trigger.

[Seztworks]

Hi Dole. Thanks for playing. I will try to answer some of your questions.

- I will check the conversation with Zoe about model. Should not talk about herself at that point. (Just checked. "ask zoe about model's name" ignores the model's part in Adrift and only looks at name. Will look into a fix. Asking Zoe "ask zoe about model" should work once you are friendly enough.)
- Commands are very lacking in this release. My fault. A lot of them got added very earlier in development to test stuff and never changed because I knew what they where. This will improve greatly in the next release. A lot more hints for stuff and clearer simpler commands.
- Zoe does not have a lot to do yet. Only what is needed to get Gems path running. Her story is yet to come. If you have found her in your room there won't be more content with her right now. It was meant as a tease for her story.
- Right now the only downside to not working is the credit deduction the next morning. This can be harsh enough I feel. More so in the beginning. Might add more responses from Celeste over time.
- Making meals right now only improves relations with Zoe and Celeste and not very far. An improvement has already been implemented in the next release to do more for you.

Thanks for the feedback

[Morgwen]

How do you use the bus to buy the groceries? Celeste is telling me to go to the lounge at 2 but nothing happens...

[Skelaturi]

How do you use the bus to buy the groceries? Celeste is telling me to go to the lounge at 2 but nothing happens...

does it say lounge? If yes thats another mistake Seztworks should look into. Its the lobby where the buss arrives at 14:00

[Pisolotto_00]

please someone can send me a walkthrough thank's guys

[Dole]

Hi Dole. Thanks for playing. I will try to answer some of your questions.
[spoiler] Asking Zoe "ask zoe about model" should work once you are friendly enough.)
Thanks for the feedback

I think you don´t understand it. The answer from zoe is she tell you all about the model and now? In the sentence I haven´t heard the name from her and I see only the name from here when I meet her around the hotel and when you have more guest with unknown names how do I know the model is now Gem?


Need help:

camera (I don´t know it)
upgrade room

I clean the wall before I get the task from Celeste is my room now clean? Or must I do something special.
Can I upgrade my room when what must I say I tried a lot.

Story the last was the machine task and I solved it. When I go around I found nothing new so I need help or clues maybe or command clues.

[Morgwen]

How do you use the bus to buy the groceries? Celeste is telling me to go to the lounge at 2 but nothing happens...

does it say lounge? If yes thats another mistake Seztworks should look into. Its the lobby where the buss arrives at 14:00

Ups, no it says lobby, but anyways nothing happens at the lobby...

It might be a bug, because the task from Celeste is triggering every time I enter the employees lounge... accepting it again, i get a message that I can't accept an other task...