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Re: Dreaming with Elsa

Postby sharksfan » Thu, 15Jul23 06:40

tlaero wrote:Sharksfan, did you get the "All Achievements" bonus scene?

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I did indeed!!! It was a very nice scene! :D I was just saying it would've been awesome to have a naughty one on one with Theresa...I thought that's where the restaurant scene was going with her ;) but, I am not complaining. Especially after the "All Achievements" scene. [img]images/icones/icon14.gif[/img] Very hot game!! Thank you for commenting so fast Tlaero and best wishes to your future work!! [img]images/icones/icon7.gif[/img] [img]images/icones/icon7.gif[/img]
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Re: Dreaming with Elsa

Postby stillill » Thu, 15Jul23 11:40

Hi there.

So since I created an account just to comment on this game, I figure it's high time to comment on this game.

First let me get the sucking up out of the way: Tlaero, I am a huge fan of your work, and consider it the gold standard of this genre. Your attention detail is excellent, story-wise and I feel like you have raised the bar for the rest of the genre. I also appreciate some of the attitudes you have brought to this forum, congratulating creators for creating what I would call a "fidelity path" in their games, which is not always the most sexy of options (although given the recent breach of Ashley Madison, maybe it will be!)

Okay now on to Dreaming With Elsa...

Overall, this may be my favorite game produced by Tlaero, but I think that is likely because Elsa is the sort of woman that would appeal to me. I've seen some criticisms of the two main paths layering over each other a little too much, and that may be fair, but given that it is Tlaero and Mortze's first collaboration and that I think both Tlaero and her fans were both chomping at the bit for her to put something out, I think we should be happy with this first act, especially given that there has been the promise of more. I can't speak for my peers, but I will gladly take a smaller release with the promise of more to come even if the two paths seem to parallel each other. If we want something more epic like Christine, it's going to take longer, and I think the creators feel like they have to balance between those two mutually exclusive forces.

Individual things that I loved:
  • Lip biting!--Holy crap was that a great detail that I noticed multiple times. The fact that Elsa bites her lip is incredibly sexy. Again, it is that attention to detail that makes these games so great.
  • Bush!--Yes! Elsa is a GROWN WOMAN who GROWS HAIR. I am not a big fan of this trend of shaving one's pubic hair, as I think pubes signal the difference between a WOMAN and a GIRL. So when I saw that Elsa was sporting bush, I loved it. I agree with Pheaky's idea that since Elsa is kind of shut in, she probably isn't so keen on grooming and thus should have a bigger bush, but the fact that she had one at all is spectacular.
  • Story!--I think one of the strength's of Tlaero's work is that she is a good storyteller which makes the game more enjoyable to play. I know people seems to be disappointed that this release wasn't more epic, but it's obviously an introduction to these characters so I can deal with it not being so epic. After all we didn't learn Darth Vader's identity until the Empire Strikes Back, right? However, there are certain story points I had issue with, so...

Room for improvement?
  • So one of the lessons I learned from this game is that if you are respectful and kind and romantic your girlfriend will give you a handjob, but if you are an overly sexual meathead she will blow you, let you give her a pearl necklace and let you stick your finger up her butt during sex. I think that one of the subtle things trying to be communicated here is that there is shy Elsa and more forceful Elsa who kicks Chloe's ass at the end of the game. When Jason tells her he likes forceful women at the end, I feel like if he went the sexual route, he should put up or shut up. He wants to stick a finger up her ass? What does he think if she pulls out a strap on and tries to peg him? It would be interesting to see such a juxtaposition happen in a game like this, even if some folks might find it to be beyond the pale.
  • Even though Mortze said he wanted Chloe to be "cute." I likely would have kept his original design for Chloe rather than what he went with, as I find her "cute" self to be a little mousy. Having been part of the independent/alternative/punk scene for over twenty five years, women like Chloe don't want to be "cute." It kind of undermines what they are trying to accomplish, socially. Of course this is totally informed by seeing the original design, so that will show you to share with us too much Mortze!

I think that's all I have for now. You guys should be really proud of what you accomplished here. Hopefully we'll get another chapter for Christmas.

Thanks again.
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Re: Dreaming with Elsa

Postby Mortze » Thu, 15Jul23 14:02

stillill wrote:Having been part of the independent/alternative/punk scene for over twenty five years, women like Chloe don't want to be "cute." It kind of undermines what they are trying to accomplish, socially.


Notice that there aren't much women like Chloe ready to seduce, manipulate, kill, steal, to get a book which would allow her to enter dreams and further manipulate, seduce, and kill anybody! I don't think she is trying to accomplish anything socially. MAybe in her past but now she has other concerns.
Besides, wouldn't a more make-up heavy face and sad/rage facial features undermine her masquerade and difficult her access to Elsa in the first place? And wouldn't that difficult her seduction/manipulation results?
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Re: Dreaming with Elsa

Postby dhans7776 » Thu, 15Jul23 16:16

Another awesome game and free no less!! [img]images/icones/icon7.gif[/img]
I can't get by the dining at delfino's tho. arrrgghh
Can any1 clue in a slow minded dude? :crazy:
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Re: Dreaming with Elsa

Postby ArianeB » Fri, 15Jul24 05:32

Really enjoying it so far. Good work!
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Re: Dreaming with Elsa

Postby luke » Fri, 15Jul24 13:39

dhans7776 wrote:Another awesome game and free no less!! [img]images/icones/icon7.gif[/img]
I can't get by the dining at delfino's tho. arrrgghh
Can any1 clue in a slow minded dude? :crazy:

What's your problem ? The game ends after Delfino's ? Then your score isn't high enough, and it's hard to help you without doing a complete walkthrough.
Or is it a problem with an achievement ? Which one ?
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Re: Dreaming with Elsa

Postby Frank » Sat, 15Jul25 07:11

I liked the game. I only played one path so far.

I just wish you didn't have mouse-cursor games in the finale. That stuff is best left to LoP.
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Re: Dreaming with Elsa

Postby tlaero » Sat, 15Jul25 07:20

Thanks Ariane! I'm happy that you're playing it. (-:

Frank, there's no penalty for skipping the mouse control sequences.

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Re: Dreaming with Elsa

Postby franksands » Sat, 15Jul25 12:37

Hi Tlaero and Mortze. "Dreaming with Elsa" is the best erotic game I've played, it has a great original story. I also loved that there are 2 separate paths you can take "romantic" and "sexual". Usually only one of these options are the "correct" one. Is there any way I can make a donation to you two? I would seriously pay good money for more great games like this. Keep up the good work
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Re: Dreaming with Elsa

Postby Mortze » Sat, 15Jul25 14:09

Well, it seems that our Elsa is the most loved.

I'm sure she apreciates.

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Re: Dreaming with Elsa

Postby dhans7776 » Sat, 15Jul25 16:54

luke wrote:
dhans7776 wrote:Another awesome game and free no less!! [img]images/icones/icon7.gif[/img]
I can't get by the dining at delfino's tho. arrrgghh
Can any1 clue in a slow minded dude? :crazy:

What's your problem ? The game ends after Delfino's ? Then your score isn't high enough, and it's hard to help you without doing a complete walkthrough.
Or is it a problem with an achievement ? Which one ?


I finally found the right path, lol. Thanks for the response!
Excellent game!!
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Re: Dreaming with Elsa

Postby tlaero » Sat, 15Jul25 17:21

Heh. That's a great picture, Mortze.

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Re: Dreaming with Elsa

Postby iksanabot » Sat, 15Jul25 19:41

Mortze wrote:Well, it seems that our Elsa is the most loved.

I'm sure she apreciates.

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Yeah, wow, great image Mortze! I love the barest hint of pubic hair peaking out - so subtle and gorgeous.
And Tlaero, I just read your post to ArianeB and read earlier that you are in to rock climbing (me too). Now it's official, I have a crush on you.
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Re: Dreaming with Elsa

Postby Mortze » Sat, 15Jul25 20:48

tlaero wrote:Heh. That's a great picture, Mortze.

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Re: Dreaming with Elsa

Postby TeineWolf » Sat, 15Jul25 21:56

I have horrible news for Tlaero. "Getting to Know Christine", is no longer the #1 game on Play Force One. Some young upstart, took the spot. With a game called, "Dreaming with Elsa".

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