Modified Erosgames

[dividead]

First, hello to all. Second, I've noticed that Erosgames are very easy to edit - the gameflow.ini controls the game, and it's a very simple setup. The images are neatly marked in a folder and referred to in the gameflow file, and the opening interface can be modified with a bit of Photoshop work. So it's actually simple to make a game of your own, or edit the existing ones. I'd first made a small extension to The House Agency earlier, adding a hardcore scene by Monica Foster (the model in the game) into the mix. This new one is completely different from the original, however:

The Teacher (starring Cecilia Vega)





The game is made using images from the HQ gallery from the mofos scene Improvin my Education, worked into a story (actually, it pretty much follows the story from the actual scene). So unlike the standard Erosgames content, it is pro-shot and has hardcore material. However, it still maintains the linear and limited nature of the original games, so I guess it's just a fun diversion for a while. Anyway, I thought it turned out pretty decent - check it out and see for yourself, if you're interested.

Rapidshare link

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Also posting the link for that extended House Agency game, in case anybody wants that. It gets a little buggy towards the end, but the good parts are stable.

Rapidshare link

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I have a few more mofos and brazzers galleries that could be given a similar treatment. If I get enough free time, I might get around to trying a couple more.

Any chance of a reupload from anyone who has those games? both links are down

[Greebo]

I'm not sure that there is any way to obtain Erosgames legally any more -- they aren't available and weren't free when they were!

As far as I can tell you cannot assume that they are 'abandonware' even.

[dividead]

I'm not sure that there is any way to obtain Erosgames legally any more -- they aren't available and weren't free when they were!

As far as I can tell you cannot assume that they are 'abandonware' even.

Well since their site has been down gor ages and I can t find them anywhere I figured it would qualify as abandonware , plus I wanted the modifed ones not the ones they made while they were up and running ^^

[tlaero]

The files are copyrighted. Copyright lasts for the duration of the creator's life, and then 50 to 100 years after his death. Even if the site went down because the author died, it's at least half a century before you can legally take his stuff. The courts don't recognize an exception for "abandonware."

Tlaero

[Greebo]

From the Abandonware entry in Wikipedia:
Old copyrights are usually left undefended. This can be due to intentional non-enforcement by owners due to software age or obsolescence, but sometimes results from a corporate copyright holder going out of business without explicitly transferring ownership, leaving no one aware of the right to defend the copyright.

Even if the copyright is not defended, copying of such software is still unlawful in most jurisdictions when a copyright is still in effect.

[danigonz]

From the Abandonware entry in Wikipedia:
Old copyrights are usually left undefended. This can be due to intentional non-enforcement by owners due to software age or obsolescence, but sometimes results from a corporate copyright holder going out of business without explicitly transferring ownership, leaving no one aware of the right to defend the copyright.

Even if the copyright is not defended, copying of such software is still unlawful in most jurisdictions when a copyright is still in effect.

Very interesting entry. If I understood it right, does it mean that the notion of "abandonware" itself is a fallacy?

[dividead]

The files are copyrighted. Copyright lasts for the duration of the creator's life, and then 50 to 100 years after his death. Even if the site went down because the author died, it's at least half a century before you can legally take his stuff. The courts don't recognize an exception for "abandonware."

Tlaero

Okay, now let me repeat.....I DON T want their games, I would like however the versions that the guys here made with totaly new content, i suppose the house agency because it has some of the stuff the guys made is out because of that but, like the teacher is totaly new stuff none of the old by erosgames so that should be alright shouldn t it?

[Greebo]

It would certainly seem to have been legally challenged and found wanting.

Personally I'm not averse to illegally downloading something if I'm interested and it's obtainable and the owner is otherwise making it impossible to obtain for love nor money. The principle of patents used to be to protect the interests of the inventor, but if marketing or development weren't carried out there was a legal right for interested parties to license the invention for a reasonable fee -- copyright was intended to be a lower order protection for the interests of authors but seems to have become a weapon in the hands of "Intellectual Property" pimps like Disney, Apple, etc. The history of copyright law is a real eye opener and a monument to greed.

I happily admit to downloading the latest "Big Bang Theory" and "Arrow", though I'd pay a reasonable amount if the option was open to me, and I shall definitely be watching "Secret Santa", the latest "Castle" tonight!

[tlaero]

The history of copyright law is a real eye opener and a monument to greed.

I happily admit to downloading the latest "Big Bang Theory" and "Arrow", though I'd pay a reasonable amount if the option was open to me, and I shall definitely be watching "Secret Santa", the latest "Castle" tonight!

I write well regarded sexy games that I give away for free. Hopefully that earns me some street cred on the "free entertainment vs copyright" front.

I can only afford make my games because I'm paid to do my day job. That job is one where I create things as well, and my company's largest threat, by far, is piracy. If all of our competition went under, the business impact to us wouldn't be as large as it would be if people just stopped stealing our stuff. I'm good at my job and am likely to keep it ... unless the rampant piracy puts us out of business--a concern of mine. I work 11 hour days. Wanting to be compensated for that work doesn't feel like greed to me.

As you happily download for-pay things for free, know that you're not stealing from some greedy, faceless corporation. You're stealing from me.

Tlaero

[fleet]

I'm with Tlaero. While the stuff I make does not compare in quality to Tlaero, I give it away. There's enough free LEGAL stuff on the internet that one shouldn't commit theft.
If you can't find a legal free copy of something, look for a used copy to buy.

[Greebo]

As you happily download for-pay things for free, know that you're not stealing from some greedy, faceless corporation. You're stealing from me.

I did qualify what I download -- I pay where the creator makes it possible! Do I unknowingly owe you payment for "The Big Bang Theory", "Arrow" or "Castle"? If I do, please show me the methodology for payment by non Americans for items that are only normally made available to a highly restricted market.

You might be interested to know that "The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo" was only made available in the UK after publication in America, despite the fact that the original UK English translations of the series were made several years before the US English versions, and there are many books that I have been unable to obtain until well after the American market has been satisfied. I'm sick of being treated as a second class citizen by so-called multinational copyright holders who happen to think the US is the only real marketplace

[Victor]

I am with Greebo.

Dont know where are you from Tlaero (assuming USA), but in Europe, we have a BIG problem with the fact, that many companies simply dont want our money in the first place. I am living in the centre of Europe, in one of the economicaly and scientificaly strongest state in EU... and I am treated like third world customer :-)
Generally, I cant buy a game older then 4 years unless it is realeased as part of a collection... or unless I am willing to wait for a month and pay for shipping from USA.
I cant buy most music (and almost no movies) online, unless it is a world wide megahit... Because not even itunes is willing to sell me most stuff, because I am not living in the right region (UK and USA, perhaps Germany?).
Funny thing: I bought Mass Effect 2, perhaps a half a year after it has been released... I instaled it, went to their internet store to buy DLCs (small datadiscs). Store was called Cerberus network and I must say, it was the most user unfriendly place I saw in a long time... And after 2 hours, I found, that there is not a SINGLE one DLC out of 8 DLCs compatible with Mass Effect 2 version that is available for my region (central and eastern Europe) .... and I cannot even download it.
3 hours later, I finished instalization of last of 8 DLCs for my new Mass Effect 2 game and you can only guess how much I paid for that. To give you a hint: I paid as much as the company that created the game legally allowed me to.
I didnt even bothered looking for a way to legally get ME 3. Why should I? They obviously dont want my money.

And if we are talking about Tv series on the internet... well, perhaps it is different in USA or UK, but in Europe... this says it all:
Removed link - Lou
Had it contained one more tracking cookie it would be labeled "Oreo"

[tlaero]

You walk into a store with Euros. They say they only take dollars. Does that make it okay to shoplift from the store?

The end result of this is that people like me stop making the content you consume. I guess at that point you folks can start making your own movies, tv shows, and games.

Tlaero

[GleebToo]

You walk into a store with Euros. They say they only take dollars. Does that make it okay to shoplift from the store?

The end result of this is that people like me stop making the content you consume. I guess at that point you folks can start making your own movies, tv shows, and games.

Tlaero

Hello, there is difference in what you two are saying. Victor is saying that when you "steal" thing that is not available to you legally then he is not hurting anyone. It is still stealing but with no harm effect to the owner. And if owner decides to offer it later (like few years later) then you would probably would not be interested in buying anyway or you can buy it then to calm your selfcoutiousness.

Yes there is piracy and it is huge. It is definitely not right but it will always be there and i believe that it is possible to fight piracy by making products easily available and by some moral education but definitely not by restrictions. On the other hand if there is donation account for your sexy games I would like to donate because your games are the best

[Greebo]

Removed link - Lou
Had it contained one more tracking cookie it would be labeled "Oreo"

Huh? What's wrong with theoatmeal.com Lou? It's quite an amusing site -- I've looked at items on it quite a few times with no problems. The one on Nikola Tesla is definitely worth a visit -- definitely puts Faraday in his place as a nasty piece of work and thief! I thought the cartoon linked to was quite à propos.

(Oops, sorry Faraday for maligning you -- I should have said Edison! Unfortunately there have been a lot of blackguards who have become famous at the expense of or in the place of more worthy individuals -- Graham Alexander Bell was another such, with the aid of a mendacious patent clerk.)