Virtual Date Girls

[Craban]

I must admit I cheated quite early. First of all I tried to find an official way but due to the cookies bug and the early ending when you're doing something wrong I played with the cookies to collect all I need for both endings.

I was just reminded to that and I feel like giving a hint on successful game play - at least in my point of view:
If a player has chosen a wrong option make the game go back some steps but don't force him to start from scratch. You can end the game if the player is just kidding and obviously picked a very bad choice. But for half-way serious tries send him in a loop where he has to find a way back to success. That keeps me entertained and I don't feel like a looser. Restarting was in the old days - remember the screen "Game over - Press Space to Restart".
Maybe it's just me so all feedback is welcomed.

[cowboyblob]

I never know whether to cheer or cry when a beloved game maker gets his product out for our enjoyment, only to find out it's more buggy than a Hope, Arkansas, Motel 6. (For you folks across the ocean, that's a low-budget motor-hotel in a "depressed" part of America.) I hope the game maker is paying attention to this thread and makes some fixes.

[nepolemo]

@yawner

thanks for your modification. Now it works perfectly.

Honestly spoken, the game is quite easy now, but I do not know how it can work without the mod.

It thought it over and over again but I found no possible way to achieve infl 4 and drink 1 before going home without entering the stripclub because there are only 5 locations without the stripclub where you can gain drink or influence and you need the casino to enter the leisure club, so its only 4 locations to score and you need 5 scores. So I think its a mistake in the game design or a bug in the programming.

Anyway thanks to the programmer. I really like the dates with Kelly and she really is a hottie. I think the girls became more and more hot in the development of the game. Crystal and Erica looked really like sluts, Leilani was a stunning girl but Kelly well I liked her most. But I think the game itself was more complex in the early stages of the game.

[urban]

i cant get anything to happen with kelly, what choises do i have to make with her?

[K9GM3]

I downloaded Kelly, but now I can't seem to access Erica and Leilani anymore. Is this a bug?

[MDK]

cowboyblob wrote : I never know whether to cheer or cry when a beloved game maker gets his product out for our enjoyment, only to find out it's more buggy than a Hope, Arkansas, Motel 6. (For you folks across the ocean, that's a low-budget motor-hotel in a "depressed" part of America.) I hope the game maker is paying attention to this thread and makes some fixes.

The maker of this game used to post here a lot but he seems to have deserted us. He would ask for input & make corrections on problems we told him about.

According to his blog he is moving on to other games & has not stated that corrections have been/will be made to the Erica game.

Don't know why he posts here no more...

[IronMark]

MDK wrote: The maker of this game used to post here a lot but he seems to have deserted us. He would ask for input & make corrections on problems we told him about.

According to his blog he is moving on to other games & has not stated that corrections have been/will be made to the Erica game.

Don't know why he posts here no more...

Hey MDK - If it's something important, send him a PM. I've had some correspondence with him via PM in the past and he's a good guy. Maybe he doesn't want to jump right in a discussion thread - he took a beating here before about the lack of an undo key and some other stuff on his games.

[TheBrain]

IronMark wrote :
he took a beating here before about the lack of an undo key and some other stuff on his games.

I think it's a bit of a stretch to say he took a beating... As far as I've followed the threads on his games every piece of advice or critique was given in quite a polite manner and I'm sure it has been given with all the right intentions (improving the games he makes, at least it was for me). Saying he took a beating sounds to me like you think everyone was shouting 'you suck!' (allowing a little exagaration). This doesn't do our input as a community much justice.


Anyway, I do hope Chaotic realizes that a large amount of his players come through these forums (I dare say it's the majority). And there have been quite some useful suggestions, which in my mind will only help his games progress into something better. I think ignoring those suggestions is not going to do his games much good.
(although I appreciate his work, everything from it radiates that he is not an experienced developer, he can use the advice...)

[brownie5960]

same problem as everyone else, i downloaded all the vdg girls, then asi activated the rar, i was redirected toward a pay site for the rar files, my question is this,do i have to but the rar or do i have to go back into my ie ir firefox files to make sure i have the updated versions for the files themselves?

[TheBrain]

brownie5960 wrote : same problem as everyone else, i downloaded all the vdg girls, then asi activated the rar, i was redirected toward a pay site for the rar files, my question is this,do i have to but the rar or do i have to go back into my ie ir firefox files to make sure i have the updated versions for the files themselves?

You really need to explain your problem better. Is the pay site you are referring to rapidshare? Because you can select a free download. Or are you trying to say you can't extract the files from the rar archive? In that case you could download a trial version of winrar (http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm), or if you favour free software, 7zip (http://www.7-zip.org/download.html). Just extract the files somewhere and open BEGIN.html.

If that doesn't solve it, you really have to try harder in explaining your problem (what did you do, where does it go wrong, etc.).

[brownie5960]

okay , sorry for the non explanation, I'm using a windows XP computer, but also have IE8 as well as Google & Google Chrome op systems, i thought i could download with winrar, since i have it downloaded, but my problem may be that I downloaded, deleted & then downloaded winrar again! or that I didn't use the direct download of winrar at all, just one op system, i thought winrar was always active, but maybe i was wrong!

[tlaero]

Chaotic, Kelly is your best game yet. Nice work.

(Incidental Spoilers follow.)

I like that there's a path to sex that doesn't involve getting her drunk. I also like that the use for getting her drunk makes her act in character. I especailly like that you can tell when you influence her by the look on her face. I loved that the other girls all played (albiet small) parts in this one. And the tennis scene is the best section in all of your games. Very nice job.

I'm looking forward to your fantasy themed games. They should be a lot of fun.

Here are a few things for you to consider in your future efforts.

Effectively, what you're making are modern day versions of old school graphic adventure games. (That's cool.) However, a large difference between your games and those is that in your games every wrong turn leads to either sudden death, or, worse, definite failure further down the road. You don't have to make the games EASY, but you might make them a little more forgiving. For instance, in Kelly's tennis scene, when you serve wrong, she could put an item of clothing back on and continue rather than stop immediately. Similarly, if you're trying to take her home and you haven't influenced her enough, you could have her say, "I don't think I'm ready to go back to your place yet" and then continue. That way, the player knows there's more to do and doesn't have to start over when he gets her home and she turns him down. You do NOT have to make the game impossible to fail. I like your games much better than the "meet 'n' fuck" games where, when you choose the wrong thing, you just choose again. Part of the fun of your games is figuring things out. But I think you could do well to turn a few of the sudden death dead ends into places where you get a second chance.

Another thing to consider is small hints as you play. I really liked the one you did with Kelly where, when you suggested Tennis, she said, "I'm not dressed for it." That made me say, "Aha! I should have bought the tennis dress!" Back to the previous point, that might have been an opportunity to let the player go buy the dress rather than fail. But to this point, please do more of those sorts of things. For instance, when you go to the leisure center and the two girls are standing there, you could have us overhear a short conversation where one says, "Let's go shopping" to which the other says, "I can't, I'm out of money." That would be a nice hint that we need to get some money from somewhere, which would lead us to the casino. Etc. I love the aspect of your games that, if you have the right object, new options become available. But often it's pretty obtuse that an option would be available if you don't already know about it. A small hint like the above in those sorts of situations would go a long way toward keeping us from reading your source code to find the way through. That would make the games even more rewarding.

All that said, Kelly is a significant improvement over the the first Crystal game (which was good). You're really coming along. Keep at it.

tlaero

[Ifrit]

i would disagree with that a little

perhpas it's a glitch but both the online and download versions (firefox) of the game allowed me to essentially right a couple of mistakes. **SPOILER** there is the ability to revisit the leisure centre to get to the tennis gear if you havent already vistited the casino, and her not being drunk or influenced enough to get fully naked during tennis and sleep with you isn's a problem cos you can go back if you missed an action and try again.

[Franco]

These games are so buggy I've pretty much given up on them. I thought Crystal was good, but I find the games since then hardly worth playing. I download them, look at some of the pictures and then delete them.

[Joobib]

New Blog-Entries about hotfixes for the games like VDK should be added.