Hot Wife Tara

[Greebo]

Seriously -- some things can be quite a turnoff for all but the hardened masochistic pornophile

[iksanabot]

I'm not sure what's up with this fetish that the LOP team is including in games recently, was definitely in Living with Temptation expansion and now this game.

Namely, having a man drink another man's cum out of a girl's vagina. I really try to not judge anyone's sexual proclivities, but this grossed me out. Generally speaking, you don't see this kind of content in LOP games and I would have appreciated some kind of disclaimer.

I understand your concern. In advance of the LWT expansion I did post something here at Sharks about how one of the bad endings was pretty nasty. I said that I didn't get turned on by cuckolding, but that the scene I wrote was going to be a cuckold's dream (I'm paraphrasing myself because I'm not going to go find the post). So, that was a little bit of a disclaimer. I also want to point out that it was one of the bad endings. And finally, that it represented some symmetry because in the good ending in LWT1, Sandy goes down on Lisa after Justin cums inside her, and in the expansion the doctor goes down on Tracy after she's had the gang bang, so it made sense, to me, to put the opposite as a bad ending (but good for guys who might like it).

But yeah, the popularity of LWT1 and expansion does seem to have influenced later games, because eating creampies (girls or guys doing it) never appeared in a LOP game before I wrote it, and it has appeared in a few since. But that's too be expected if you are constantly trying to learn what the customers like best.

That being said, there is no ending where Justin eats a creampie in LWT2.

And disclaimer: in Romancing the Throne,

there is a possible one-image scene where you or your enemy has to kiss a woman with both your cum on her face.

One final word. I don't think men eating creampies is hot. I know that fetish is out there and I when I put something like that in one of my games, it's supposed to be punishment, with knowledge that some customers might like that kind of punishment.


Didn't mean to hijack the thread - congrats on Hot Wife Tara (is it true that you wrote it, Daman?) I thought it was a fun, hot game (and I avoided the MMF creampie ending )

[ZaphodB]

Nobody's forcing people to play to bad endings. So long as choice involved then quite a lot should be on the table. I think it is very brave for people to write scenes for fetishes they do not particular like. When you write it can lead you into places you would not wish to go yourself but then if you do not go there once you have had the idea and it fits in with your story there is almost a dishonesty in not going there. In games you are also trying to put as much variety as possible, especially with achievements being so much part of things, which creates an incentive for writers to take risks. However I do understand that some games should be a little more vanilla. I mentioned in the OP with this game that I did not get the final achievement because it seemed a step too far.

I think to get the achievement you are basically taking an enormous risk with the whole relationship apart from doing something which in 99% of cases would be wrong.

In this case I feel consent is much more of issue than the actual fetish.

[Brigma]

Maybe LoP games should start having tags for their games like regular porn sites do for their videos. That way you could find or avoid any games that contain fetishes you like or dislike.

[LRM]

Maybe LoP games should start having tags for their games like regular porn sites do for their videos. That way you could find or avoid any games that contain fetishes you like or dislike.

If you would dislike seeing one woman, eating your semen from a different woman then maybe you have a legitimate point. If not these differences are what makes horse races...
I too find the idea distasteful (no pun intended). But I don't care whether she's dipping her fingers into herself or slurping away on some other woman. And even if it's my own deposit in her mouth; there won't be any kissing going on.
Lou

[Brigma]

Maybe LoP games should start having tags for their games like regular porn sites do for their videos. That way you could find or avoid any games that contain fetishes you like or dislike.

If you would dislike seeing one woman, eating your semen from a different woman then maybe you have a legitimate point. If not these differences are what makes horse races...
I too find the idea distasteful (no pun intended). But I don't care whether she's dipping her fingers into herself or slurping away on some other woman. And even if it's my own deposit in her mouth; there won't be any kissing going on.
Lou

Personally I feel as though these are two very different things. The tags could be something along the lines of "Semen Drinking (male)" and "Semen Drinking (female)". By your logic, if you dislike one kind of threesome you would dislike all kinds of threesomes even though most porn sites have tags to differentiate them (FFM, MFM, FFF, etc.)

[danigonz]

Seriously -- some things can be quite a turnoff for all but the hardened masochistic pornophile

Well... fetishes can be tricky. But, since Leo's team has produced a huge amount of games, is logical that, from time to time, they may introduce some weird practices for the sake of variety.

Licking other man's cum from a pussy is not my thing, I find it gross, but I can accept it in the context of a fictional game, as part of fictional character's behaviour. Of course, if it were a common thing in all the games, I would be the first one complaining. But as far as they keep it minimal, I support it.

99% of sex scenes in erotic games are kiss, touching, oral, vaginal, anal as 'grand finale' and cumshot (facial if she is nasty, on breasts if she is sweet). So, anything that can add variety to that pattern is welcomed.

It's very difficult to evaluate sexual tastes. For example, someone said in this threat that he won't kiss a woman after having ejaculated in her mouth. And I undesrtad it. But that's something I usually do, I think it's a matter of equality: if she can take my load, I also can (if it's disgusting for me, why should her accept it?). But, in any case, that's a matter of tastes: I know people who can't accept anal sex, so they would find distasteful almost any erotic game.

My point is that, regarding sexual practices, it's logical that game developers should "play safe" and don't go too far showing sexual practices, since these games are intended for heterosexual males (that's the reason they show female homosexuality but the male one is taboo).
But I'm ok with them showing weirder things from time to time if they fit into the character or the plot. In this case, the wife wanted to go really far: after accepting making it with a stranger, a threesome, anal and letting the stranger cumming inside, it was "logical" that she would accept the licking from her husband. It's a weird practice, but I think it fitted the character's and plot's logic.

Anyway, as other members of the forum suggested, I think it could be wise to warn us that any gan can show "extreme" sex, so we can decide if we want to go further.

(I hope you can understand me: English is obviously not my first language!)

[iksanabot]

I want to make a clear distinction here:

I can't be sure about hot wife tara without going back and playing it again, but in LWT it was not about drinking anything from the pussy. It was about going down on a woman, despite the fact that there was a bit of a mess there. When Sandy does it, it's specifically to turn both Lisa and Justin on enough to get them to have a second round with her. In the expansion, it's about giving sexual pleasure no matter what the costs. Tracy want's Justin to do it even though there is a mess there as penance (she says) but really to exert dominance, to take control of her cheating husband. So really, it's never about Justin wanting to do it, and it's never about "drinking" (though i think I do remember Tracy saying "EAT IT!" but that's just an expression for giving oral sex, she's not saying "eat all this cum out of my pussy" she is saying "give me an orgasm, even if you don't want to."

In my upcoming fantasy game, the queen is a spoiled brat who enjoys making people do what they don't want to do, and so it's her character to try and force a kiss when she's covered in cum, but again, the characters don't want to do it

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The point is, the male characters in my games do not want to do this stuff, so you, as the player, you can do your character a favor and avoid it, or in the worst case, suffer the cost of failure (worse then seeing your character beheaded in some other video game?)


And yeah, if some players like it, that's fine by me, I'm glad they had fun playing the game.

[wicked035]

I am with iksanabot on this one. If you dont like it you can always avoid it. This is not porn, its games. So you can stay faitfull to your wife, decide not to have anal or drink another guy cum if you dont want. In porn you dont have a choice, here you do.

[ltpika]

Games are about choice...more choice, the better the game. You should be able to refuse an action without penalty of insta-death. Otherwise you're forcing your fetishes on people.

[icehaku]

Except there is no instant death...It's made very obvious that the game is a hot wife fetish and even has 3 paths for players to choose.

The only reason people are complaining about 'choice' and 'tagging' is because this fetish offends their sensibilities. Anything that didn't and these complaints would not appear. The game's design is perfectly fine.

[Greyelf]

Games are about choice...more choice, the better the game.

This not always true, there are times when too many choices make a bad game, like a RPG with no clear main path.

[TeineWolf]

This isn't rocket science.

In a game like this, the option is presented to the player. Click here to do it. Click here not to do it. The player can decide to do something, or not do it. If that something is a fetish you don't like. You simply choose, not to see it. If you do decide to see it, And you don't like it it. Or wish you could un-see, what you've seen. The fault is not upon the game. It is on the silly human, than was perhaps too curious.

[MickeyMouse1]

It may be just me but no matter how I play this particular game I wind up with the husband being left tied to a chair. That can't be the way the game is supposed to end is it?

[TheGreatJoeGargery]

Maybe LoP games should start having tags for their games like regular porn sites do for their videos. That way you could find or avoid any games that contain fetishes you like or dislike.

This is actually a very good idea.