Greebo wrote : @RKShooter
Both these instances were, in my mind, close to rape, and only failed to be so because of the responses of the two girls at the time. Maybe he should be seen to show remorse.
Mind you, thinking about it, Susan didn't seek Ben's conscious permission before using him for her own purposes and, more to the point from Lisa's point of view, she didn't seek Milly's conscious permission before interfering with her! (Two wrongs don't make a right though!)