"Milly" by rkshooter

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Re: "Milly" by rkshooter

Postby xeris89 » Mon, 08Jul28 10:44

On the whole I like the new plotlines that developed over the last 2 eps. Let me start by saying that. I can't say the eps were my favorites though.

The Robert character just comes off as really creepy and pushy. The previous ep with him was one of my favorites with the flashlight game...very hot! Then he seemed to have a sense of humor and playfulness but now he comes off more as a calloused rich guy who is used to having things his way. Maybe that's just a misunderstanding that will be dispelled in the future though.

23 was extremely hot, no doubt. But it really eats at me that Ben is a rapist now. Even though he's promiscuous (so is Milly) I thought he was a somewhat honorable guy.

Gah, I hate saying this. I believe artists should be able to express themselves freely...but this is just so wrong. I know that people will say I'm overreacting saying this but oh well. I would actually like to request 23 be revised slightly. Make Lisa lose a bet or cave in, whatever. Right now Ben has such a negative stigma that will follow him into the future. :( Or if it must stay that way at least have him show he knows it was wrong.

I don't want to be a dark cloud in the midst shining praise but since we have the author right here I think constructive feedback is worthwhile.
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Re: "Milly" by rkshooter

Postby sailor prince » Sat, 08Aug02 09:44

I can't view episodes 19 20 21 22 23 :cry:
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Re: "Milly" by rkshooter

Postby taz » Sat, 08Aug02 12:06

when a game with milly
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Re: "Milly" by rkshooter

Postby Arnulf » Sat, 08Aug02 12:32

sailor prince, you should tell us more detailed about your problem, since we cannot try to help you without knowing anything! ( you cannot view some episodes: maybe you are blind, your computer is broken, your harddisk is defect, or somewhat else??????) [img]smile/indecis.gif[/img]
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Re: "Milly" by rkshooter

Postby crazyhorse » Mon, 08Aug11 03:02

I agree, Ben is now a rapist now. When Lisa, said NO then Ben should have stopped. But then Lisa, said no even before things got started. Then at the end of Ch.23 Ben said it was wrong. This to me is the writer saying I just made this story line very questionable and wrong!
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Re: "Milly" by rkshooter

Postby rkshooter » Mon, 08Aug11 04:17

I did not intent to make Ben a rapist. I was headed towards something else, but forum comments about that prospective that Ben is a rapist are not what I intended. They are however accurate in what the episode depicts. I can not just leave that idea in the viewers mind. I have some ideas of how to change it but have not settled on one for now. It may require replacing some of the episode or developing more of this story and then see if viewers still feel Ben is a bad person......I don't know anyone and I do mean everyone that has not done something they should not have done, that they knew they should not have done but did it anyway. They may not want to addmit it or ever speak of it but they know and it sits in the backs of their minds. That doen't mean they are bad people, perhaps just a lapse in judgement.

So with that I am open to suggestions as to how I might fix this....
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Re: "Milly" by rkshooter

Postby cowboyblob » Mon, 08Aug11 06:16

rkshooter:

Lisa convinces her big, buff, gay body-builder man-friend to teach Ben the joys (and pains) of crossing up one's sexual orientation under duress. After a night of drunken quasi-forced sodomy, Ben tearfully apologizes to Lisa... then discovers the unopened condom packet that he mistakenly thought Lionel had used. The next adventure is Milly-centered, but has a few frames showing a worried Ben at the clinic getting blood tests for AIDS/HIV.

Since no anal penetration was actually depicted in the art in the sodomy episode, you can show a flashback of Lionel pulling out with a poopy loaded condom, then tossing the fresh packet on the bed in a feat of mischief.

I'm joking about all this of course, but I think it would be damned funny. Good thing I don't make these things myself.... :)
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Re: "Milly" by rkshooter

Postby Squeeky » Mon, 08Aug11 08:08

Something that has been missed is that Mixie is as much to blame for Ben screwing Lisa, she kept urging Lisa in spite of Lisa's protests.

There is a probable easy "out" here. Mixie says that it's different to (forgot her name) using the strapon, "Lisa, you've never done a guy. You just had your menses, it's safe. Give it a go. You can do me all week if you don't like it."

Write it as you see fit, but Ben gets Lisa, preserves the good person that you say he is (even if he is being a cad re Millie - but then, he and Millie are only partners because of insinuation .. kind of, they have some belief of the other), and another plus is that it would take little rework in comparison; and the future plot won't be horrendously distorted. In the morning Lisa might even catch Ben in the morning, thank him for the pleasure and give him a "brekkie" break!!??
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Re: "Milly" by rkshooter

Postby Arnulf » Mon, 08Aug11 09:47

[img]smile/085.gif[/img] Yes, I have seen a rape! :no: But not in the Milly-story by Rkshooter, but here in the forum. With all rerspect to xeris89, there was made a try to cut the artist's pegasus wings!

Some constructive critic is good and welcome, but to bring the author of such a successful artwork as Milly really is to such dilemma, is really a mess. If it would be me, I would honestly get doubts, if I should continue my work!

Viewing the crirical scene of part 23 we could see, that Mixi first persuaded Lisa, to help her making Ben as horny as possible. Then without any pressure Lisa joined and enjoyed the very hot threesome games in the nude. Only about doing a man, Lisa pointed out clearly her principles. But also Mixi tried to persuade Lisa to try that, promising her that in effect she would like very much making such experience for the first time. Maybe, Ben violated the border set by Lisa, but only few seconds thereafter, Lisa was fully in agreement and also very pleased afterwards. That I would not call a rape.

Now let us have a look on the viewers: The net is full of users, which are free to watch whatever they want to see and these pictures, games, videos and stories, especially in the sexual corner, are all together hot and hard and giving the users a feeling to be free to deal with such matters apart from their real life. It is a very healthy ventile for sexual phantasies of whatever kind. Such a user - and we all can find us within that group! :o - should never ever think of being empowered to judge about any item thereof. Just enjoy or enjoy not - you can switch off whenever you want.

Rkshooter, please don't let you restrict in your phantasy in any way, because the main feature of an artist is his feeling, which belongs only to him. And for all the others: let me say it with a wellknown sentence of the German language: "Let the curch in the village!"
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Re: "Milly" by rkshooter

Postby spitzertyp » Mon, 08Aug11 15:11

I totally agree with arnulf.
I can't see a rape in this episode. imo, this is an evening with high-uploaded erotic lust, in which Mixi is the leader: she is hot and horny, and then first she makes Ben hot. Then Lisa comes around, is hot and horny too, and the two girls together gets Ben hotter. Then the girls do theirselves, knowing that Ben is watching. Then Mixi invites Ben to join in, and Lisa don't seem to have a problem with. Mixi and Ben doing it, Mixi and Lisa doing it, the three of them does it. Sure Ben wants to do it with Lisa too, and in the end Mixi is the one who sways Lisa to have a try with a men. And in the end, Lisa doesn't seem to regret it, in contrast, she liked it and feels well. So what? In a earlier episode (14), Grace and Ben have sex together, and Ben does Graces ass, although first she didn't want to, but then likes it very much.
Sex and erotic in a way have to do with convincing and tryin out and crossing boarders - as long, as one of the involved don't seem to get forced to it.
imo, the whole discussion isn't necesarry and above all not fair to rkshooter.
In this forum there are many many links to many many games or somehing else which clearly have to do with rape and violence - trying to get rkshooter's Milly-Story in this direction seems absolutley nonsens to me.
Sure there IS an option to let the story gets near this direction: milly is out of town to be teached the inner secrets of sex... But even WHEN: what's so damnable to let things get a little nasty? Thoughts are free, and no-one has been hurt since yet.
There are many many MANY things goin on in the real life which are worth to fight against and spend energy trying to make things better, but i cannot see any sense in the trying to pluck rkshooters phantastic art and work in littlest pieces...
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Re: "Milly" by rkshooter

Postby open me » Mon, 08Aug11 18:37

Shark stick to your original idea there usually the best; we will continue following Milly whatever you decide;) some times i wish Ben were a little more forward (some times);but the rewards trully go to those who can wait and bide their time; she/they will come, lets let the story continue in its time. after all if there were no time for anticipation we'd all loose interest. As it is we need the build-up, not the instant gratification.
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Re: "Milly" by rkshooter

Postby shark » Tue, 08Aug12 01:43

I liked this episode very much... and Lisa too. Milly's friends are very hot girls (for our pleasure) and they always seek new experiments.
It is obvious that Lisa wished such an experiment and I suspect her to have prepared this situation with Mixie complicity...
Yes guys, there was a rape. Ben, who only wished to test his new pool table was realy raped by these two horny girls!!!
This man is tender and romantic, he wants just to be loved by Milly[img]smile/hearts.gif[/img] . And all the girls he meets think only to be fucked by him !
It's a scandal, react, support Ben !!! :hurle:
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Re: "Milly" by rkshooter

Postby spitzertyp » Tue, 08Aug12 14:43

lol shark.... :top:
Poor poor Ben.... If it could be my choice,i sure would switch his life with mine....
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Re: "Milly" by rkshooter

Postby tr_rooster » Thu, 08Aug14 20:06

rkshooter,
You are doing a great job!!! Keep up the good work and dont worry about the negitive comments. You cant please everyone.
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Re: "Milly" by rkshooter

Postby Greebo » Fri, 08Aug15 20:23

@RKShooter

I must say I felt a little disquiet about Ben's insistent anal on Grace as well as his insistent penetration of Lisa although they both clearly enjoyed what he was doing almost immediately.

Both these instances were, in my mind, close to rape, and only failed to be so because of the responses of the two girls at the time. Maybe he should be seen to show remorse.

A possible scenario to my mind, if you haven't already got too far with the next sequences, could be if he wakes up the next morning to find that Mixie and Lisa have willingly migrated in the night from the pool table to either side of him in bed. Then he could apologise to Lisa for the liberty he took in the heat of the moment with her accepting the apology and asking him to repeat his performance, whilst saying she won't tell Milly and asking him not to tell Grace - Mixie could just join in with the two of them
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