Overseer with Rags engine

[ianopolos]

You need Rags engine google it and download , you can download also Tads.

This game has good story and its very difficult, but if you want you can check hundreds of other games on this site.
Here is link to Overseer:

New game version - 1.11: http://www.mediafire.com/?p7ntg4ec3v4vw8h - this version is no different from 1.096, except that saving/loading times should now be significantly reduced.

http://www.tfgamessite.com/index.php?mo ... ame&id=267

[kessie8yl]

Shouldn't this be in the board for RAGS games?

[Brigma]

Technically, this board is called All Sexy Games. Just because there is a dedicated RAGS board doesn't mean it can't be posted here.

[kessie8yl]

Technically, this board is called All Sexy Games. Just because there is a dedicated RAGS board doesn't mean it can't be posted here.

Well I guess if you're being pedantic - but you might get more response on the RAGS board... There seems to be a significant minority of people interested in that sort of game but the ones I've tried weren't worth the effort it took to install the app.

[Brigma]

I agree, most RAGS games aren't my cup of tea either. In fact, there are so many I don't like that I rarely check the board dedicated to them. However it isn't a bad engine and if there is a game that would have appeal to a more general audience I don't see why it shouldn't be posted here. If one or two good good games come out for RAGS it could become a reasonable alternative for developers to TADS, which also requires additional software to play and has many good games.

[Hoboy]

There are a few good ones out there - what about BBBens offerings?
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2215
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2847

[Hoboy]

Just realized - those were Adrift. I know there are a few RAGS - I will back that with a link...

[Hoboy]

I was thinking of Dangerous Assets, and Xtracurricular Activities - both of which ARE in the RAGS forum, so I guess this makes sense. Seems weird, as we get every other game engine in the all sexy games, but this is a Shark and Mods call...

[kessie8yl]

I was thinking of Dangerous Assets, and Xtracurricular Activities - both of which ARE in the RAGS forum, so I guess this makes sense. Seems weird, as we get every other game engine in the all sexy games, but this is a Shark and Mods call...

It seems to me the reason for the RAGS forum being where it is lies with the fact that 99% of the games seem to exist only to entertain the developer... A bit like people who build working models of cars, etc, out of weird stuff like matchsticks or earwax. There's no other reason for them to exist except to show the world that this guy can do it. Others may admire the skills involved and like-minded "anoraks" will compare notes and exchange ideas - but the great majority of us will look once, go "Hmmmm", and move along.

You would think that in all this discussion the developers of AIF could at least have agreed a standard vocabulary by now, but no. We're still left trying to work out whether the verb is "Pull, push, drag, lift, move, carry" or something totally obscure - and much of the time the command even changes during the course of a single game. Where would the PC be without ANSI? (Probably a Mac actually lol) .... Despite this, these games are enthusiastically received by the AIF crowd and even go on to win awards - the fact there are only 3 entrants and someone has to win it doesn't seem to matter.

When it comes to the world AIF games it seems like that model car I mentioned is missing a wheel. The modelling crowd are in ecstasy over the brilliant paint job and woe betide anyone who points out that without the missing wheel it's not really a model of a car.

[ianopolos]

Alright Hoboy ill check those 2 games they look big enough

[Morgwen]

It seems to me the reason for the RAGS forum being where it is lies with the fact that 99% of the games seem to exist only to entertain the developer...

Did you ever tried a RAGS game? NO? Try a few and you will see that some of them are very good...

Despite this, these games are enthusiastically received by the AIF crowd and even go on to win awards - the fact there are only 3 entrants and someone has to win it doesn't seem to matter

Hmm... now you mix the things... you are talking about the minicomps... I never saw RAGS games there... and why is the competition called "mini" comp? Because the developers have only a limted time period (a few months) to develope the game and the content is limited by rules...

There are many very good free games out there, and yes some of them are better than many commercial games... so try them before you judge them...

Here is an example:

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2814

The developer says its a DEMO... really there is more content in this demo than in the most other finished games...



- edit only corrected a few writing mistakes -

[ExLibris]

It seems to me the reason for the RAGS forum being where it is lies with the fact that 99% of the games seem to exist only to entertain the developer... A bit like people who build working models of cars, etc, out of weird stuff like matchsticks or earwax. There's no other reason for them to exist except to show the world that this guy can do it. Others may admire the skills involved and like-minded "anoraks" will compare notes and exchange ideas - but the great majority of us will look once, go "Hmmmm", and move along.

That might be true in this forum (although the size of the threads for games such as Dangerous Assets suggests that there is at least some interest), but RAGS has proved to be immensely popular elsewhere, such as tfgamessite and the Hypnopics Collective (both of which have a higher population than this forum incidentally).

You would think that in all this discussion the developers of AIF could at least have agreed a standard vocabulary by now, but no. We're still left trying to work out whether the verb is "Pull, push, drag, lift, move, carry" or something totally obscure - and much of the time the command even changes during the course of a single game.

Interactive fiction games do in fact have a fairly standard vocabulary, although it can be opaque to the newcomer since it's largely derived from the commercial games of the 80s (which were the inspiration for today's IF authoring systems). What you seem to be describing is 'guess the verb', which is normally the result of an author not implementing enough synonyms for an action that falls outside that standard vocabulary.

Despite this, these games are enthusiastically received by the AIF crowd and even go on to win awards - the fact there are only 3 entrants and someone has to win it doesn't seem to matter.

It's odd that you should mention this as a criticism, since the Erins were put on hiatus several years ago precisely because not enough games were being released to make them worthwhile as a competition.

[ExLibris]

Despite this, these games are enthusiastically received by the AIF crowd and even go on to win awards - the fact there are only 3 entrants and someone has to win it doesn't seem to matter

Hmm... now you mix the things... you are talking about the minicomps... I never saw a RAGS there... and why is the competition called "mini" comp? Because the developers have only a limted time period (a few months) to develope the game and the content is limited by rules...

The fact that the AIF Minicomp places a limit on the amount of multimedia (ie. pictures) allowed means that RAGS games are at a major disadvantage, and in fact only one has ever been entered. The other reason why there aren't any RAGS games in the Minicomp is because the authoring sytem has never been very popular with the AIF community, probably because systems such as TADS, Inform and ADRIFT were already well established.

[Brigma]

Where would the PC be without ANSI? (Probably a Mac actually lol)

*breaks beer bottle*
you take that back! lol

[kessie8yl]

I have tried RAGS games - although I can't remember which. Says it all really... but you don't really need me to tell you - judge for yourself by the comments left for this game... The only comments other than mine are 2 or 3 RAGS regulars responding to them. Nobody apart from you guys are interested...

QED