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Re: Life With Keeley

Postby Erubyr » Fri, 11Dec30 11:28

I loved Life with Keeley, so great to have games written from a girls point of view. I still need to find out where I am missing 4 points, I guess it is in roleplay. The Orc slayer gives me an option with (roleplay) in it, did not see it yet with the cheating housewife. But very satisfying, awesome graphics and a good consistent character profile, I loved her uncomfort arranging the under the desk surprise. And a dream of a woman having sex with her husband double, quite a surprise in these games.

Compliments Phreaky and Tlaero!
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Re: Life With Keeley

Postby phreaky » Fri, 11Dec30 17:48

tlaero wrote:Welcome to all the pilotfish who have been joining recently to post about Keeley, and thank you for the kind words. I hope we see more of you folks in the lagoon.

Just to make sure people aren't walking on eggshells around me. My earlier outburst aside, you are allowed to tell me what you didn't like about Life with Keeley as well. As do most people, I appreciate it when you temper your negative opinions with your positive ones, but I promise not to bite anyone else's head off.

Life With Keeley currently has over 5800 downloads, which is already more than Daydreaming With Keeley had (I don't know about the first one, because Phreaky uploaded that). Getting to Know Christine has considerably more, but that's not surprising. It's also doing very well on PlayforceOne, though for some reason they keep posting walkthroughs in the comments. Wierd that they need so many.

I don't really have a way to keep stats on this, but I wonder what percentage of the people who liked the game are married and what percentage of those who didn't are not. Reading through the criticisms (especially those posted elsewhere), gave me the impression that the criticisors aren't married. But I'm not sure. I got a really heartwarming private message from a married guy, though, which may be coloring my thoughts.

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I just checked, "keeley one" has been downloaded about 18700 times
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Re: Life With Keeley

Postby iksanabot » Fri, 11Dec30 20:36

tlaero wrote:Welcome to all the pilotfish who have been joining recently to post about Keeley, and thank you for the kind words. I hope we see more of you folks in the lagoon.

Just to make sure people aren't walking on eggshells around me. My earlier outburst aside, you are allowed to tell me what you didn't like about Life with Keeley as well. As do most people, I appreciate it when you temper your negative opinions with your positive ones, but I promise not to bite anyone else's head off.

Life With Keeley currently has over 5800 downloads, which is already more than Daydreaming With Keeley had (I don't know about the first one, because Phreaky uploaded that). Getting to Know Christine has considerably more, but that's not surprising. It's also doing very well on PlayforceOne, though for some reason they keep posting walkthroughs in the comments. Wierd that they need so many.

I don't really have a way to keep stats on this, but I wonder what percentage of the people who liked the game are married and what percentage of those who didn't are not. Reading through the criticisms (especially those posted elsewhere), gave me the impression that the criticisors aren't married. But I'm not sure. I got a really heartwarming private message from a married guy, though, which may be coloring my thoughts.

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Hi Tlaero,
I"m one of the married ones (coming up on 8 years) and I really enjoyed Life with Keely. I haven't been very in depth about what I like about it, so I don't feel comfortable going into any detail about what (mildly) disapointed me. But here I will try to do both, though I will still be fairly brief.

What I love most about this game (and your games in general) is that the story really drives the eroticism. For example, when Keely does the under-the-desk thing (I hope I don't need to spoiler that), it is an extremely erotic situation, way, way, way beyond any of the kind of eroticism you get from a game that is just: Here's a girl, she will fuck you if you say the right things, now fuck her. I think that scene may be the most erotic scene of any game I've played. And I think many of the other scenes were reaching for that level of eroticism too (and achieving a high level, if not as hot as that one scene). The eroticism is all the more heightened by the great story telling and characterization, which better immerses the player in the game. The strength is in dreaming up a highly erotic situation, and then bringning the characters to the situation in a believable, playable, and engaging way.

I do wish the under-the-desk scene had gone on longer, and that Keeley had gotten even a little more naughty. It seemed the kind of situation that things could have gotten just a little more intense that either Keeley or her friend had anticipated. For example, the friend could have found herself turned-on to the point where she didn't want to leave, perhaps staying for the orgasm, without blowing Keeley's cover. Maybe the friend get's a little wrapped up in it, and subtly strikes a few poses meant to further the husband's arousal (I haven't played it in a while and I can't remember names right now, sorry). The husband is too distracted to fully understand how the friend is behaving, but Keeley sense her friend's unwillingness to leave and is in turn more aroused by the situation and works harder, making it more difficult for the husband to stay composed. When the friend leaves, there could be a brief bathroom masturbation scene from her. Also, and given my constnat promotion of extended orgasm scenes you are probably expecting this, but it would have been nice to have a couple of more orgasm images. And in particular, caught up in the naughtiness of it all, Keeley could have let a bit of cum dribble out of her mouth and onto her blouse. Only a bit so that it could be cleaned up and pass for a regular stain that might occur from a sloppy lunch ( ;) ) but enough that her friend comments on it when they talk about it later, and that the secretary comments too. On a side note, my wife often gives me blowjobs and lets me cum in her mouth (well, sometimes often, sometimes hardly ever), but doesn't swallow (and is not amenable to receiving a facial). I've commented to her that it would be nice to see her let it drool out of her mouth instead of her moving off to spit it in the toilet, and she giggles but doesn't do it - partly becasue she doesn't want to get our sheets/furniture all spermy. Anyway, one time she was blowing me in the shower and I came just as she had paused with her mouth off of my cock, so that the first shot sprayed her chin. She quickly went back to sucking, but when I was done, she looked up at me and giggled and said "look," pointing to the cum on her chin, and letting the cum in her mouth drip out. I almost exploded again right there - the sight of my cum dripping from her mouth onto her nipple was incredible. The point is, it was a one-of-a-kind moment for us that has never happened again despite a very hot sex life. So, even if the women isn't the type to normally do something like that, in some circumstances it can still happen, and I think it's those special circumstances that are most story worthy.

The above comment is really the theme of all my comments - I would have liked each scene to go a little farther, a little more naughty. My wife and I have a pretty intense sex life, but we have not done many of the things in the game (and we haven't ever invited someone else into our sex life). Still, even though we've never done many of the things in the game, they didn't seem out of reach, or mind blowing (except the desk blowjob). That may have been your intent: Giving married couples ideas for things to spice things up that aren't outrageous, and that is cool. Still, I want to fantasize about stuff that is a little closer to "could never happen" than some of your scenes.

I'll put two more comments under the spoiler:
Watching porn with your wife. Ok, a lot of guys have wives that would kill them if they knew the guy watches porn, but honestly, those girls are crazy. how can you not know your husband watches porn, really? Anyway, for those guys watching porn with your wife is probably a nice fantasy. But for me... My wife knows that any day where we don't have sex is a day I'm going to jerk-off to porn (or sexy video games), and she's totally cool with it. We've watched a bit of porn together, but it doesn't really turn her on. So for me, having her sneak up on me and start playing with me while I watch porn is a much hotter situation. For one thing, it's such a mind-blowing act of sexual generousity, and for another, it's a sex act taht doesn't require you to take your attention away from the porn. I can imagine Keeley telling her husband not to move, to keep watching, to relax and let her do this...

Role-playing. I've never done any role-playing, but if we did, I would want it to involve dressing up a bit. I think role-playing is an opportunity to see each otehr ina novel way, and costumes would really help that. So no, I'm not suggesting an ogre costume, but a princess costume could be pretty hot. And on that note, having the full sex scene without full removal of clothing. Naked is repetitive, but some clothing allows for lots of variation which I think is very important in keeping a married sex life interesting. I recently got a little frustrated with my wife because she had bought this great little black dress for a wedding, that she looked very sexy in, but she wouldn't let me have sex with her whiel she was wearing it because she didn't want to ruin it. But she looked so hot, and NEW to me. To me, hot sex should always be a higher priority than worrying about ruining clothes, even expensive clothes, but I lost that argument...



So, I've been very honest here, but I hope it doesn't sting. Please remember I'm an adoring fan, and I really just appreciate being able to tell you things that turn me on. You may read my ideas and think: "Well, I'm not going to take this guy seriously, he's clearly a pervert with a cumshot fetish." And you may be right (I don't think I'm a pervert or that I have a cumshot fetish (well, maybe a mild cumshot fetish)). But I'm hoping you'll take this simply as constructive examples of how an erotic situation could get even more erotic (at least to me).

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Re: Life With Keeley

Postby tlaero » Fri, 11Dec30 23:46

Thanks iksanabot, that's great feedback. I've traditionally been pretty turned off by cumshots and never understood why so much porn has them. Getting your perspective is very interesting. Thank you, especially for sharing the story of you and your wife in the shower.

I hear you on the "sex while partially clothed" suggestion. That was my suggestion for the wedding scene, and I liked how it turned out. And I liked your suggestions for amping it up more in a believable way. I don't know if we'll do another Keeley game, but if we do, we'll need to take some of those suggestions to heart.

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Re: Life With Keeley

Postby iksanabot » Sat, 11Dec31 00:51

tlaero wrote:Thanks iksanabot, that's great feedback. I've traditionally been pretty turned off by cumshots and never understood why so much porn has them. Getting your perspective is very interesting. Thank you, especially for sharing the story of you and your wife in the shower.

I hear you on the "sex while partially clothed" suggestion. That was my suggestion for the wedding scene, and I liked how it turned out. And I liked your suggestions for amping it up more in a believable way. I don't know if we'll do another Keeley game, but if we do, we'll need to take some of those suggestions to heart.

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I'm glad you appreciate my feedback, and I'm flattered you liked my cumshot in the shower story.

I want to try to explain something about cumshots, maybe in kind of a long and rambling way.

Through my teens, I thought guy/girl porn was kind of gross. I much preferred girl on girl stuff, and I remember examing that preference with a friend and asking (rhetorically) "Why would I want to see some dude's cock?" I just wanted to see as many naked girls on screen as possible, hot, wet and horny, so that I could imagine myself in the middle. Seeing a cock was a turn-off. But as I grew older and more experienced, I began to prefer guy/girl porn because for one, I was comfortable enough with my own sexuallity that I didn't worry about being gay if scenes with cock turned me on, and because I was more able to put myself in the place of the man, fantasizing it was my cock entering the woman (I still prefer POV porn to anything), and furthermore, seeing a woman thoroughly pleased by a cock is vary satisfying, becasue a cock is what I have. I still do like lesbian stuff to an extent, but guy/girl is more engaging because I can put myself in the scene. Similarly, when I was younger I didn't like receiving blowjobs. They felt great, of course, but they also felt selfish, and with my goal being the best lover I could be, they flet like a mistake - I wanted everything we did to be directed at pleasing the woman. (I kick myself now, becasue I had this girlfriend in high school who loed giving head, and loved the taste of cum, and I seldom took advantage in a way that could fuel masturbation fantasies all these years later. I also once passed up on a chance to have a different girlfriend give me head while watching a playboy video - while hositng a party in college I went up to my roomates room to grab a video of us doing a gag commercial for safe drug use, and coudln't find it, but found a playboy video. I turned it on, and was transfxed, sittig down for a second, whereupon my girlfriend came up looking for me. I was startled, and went for the remote, but she just looked at the screen, smiled, and without hesitating dropped to her knees in front of the chair and started sucking me off. AWESOME! But I felt selfish, and concerned my roommate would come up, and so I stopped her after only a few minutes, taking her to my room and having some pretty hot sex there instead). So anyway, I was always putting a stop to blowjobs until I gradually realized that just as I wanted to be as generous and mind-blowing as I could be, so did my partners, and I should let them, and most importantly, I should appreciate it.

And now I appreciate it very, very much. It's an act of generousity, but it's more. When I go down on a girl (any girl I'm attracted to, it doesn't have to be about love), I literally worship their pussy. I worship their sex. I can not get enough of it, honestly, I want it all in my mouth, and I love the taste, and I eat it like I love the taste. And the idea of a girl feeling that way about my cock, my cum, is the biggest turn-on of all. I don't feel defaced, or humiliated or servile when I come up from licking out a girl with her juices all over my face, I feel intensely aroused, powerful, generous, and just plain magnificent. And that is how I want a girl to feel. I want the girl to feel like she can't get enough of me in her mouth. I want her to suck it like she can't wait for it to explode in her mouth, and I want her to love the feel of it exploding in her mouth, or onto her face. I want my orgasm to be orgasmic for her. That's the turn-on, and that's what I want to see in porn/erotic art.

But of course, it's not totally realistic. Some girls just don't like the taste of cum, and some can't get around the idea that blowjobs are servile, and that a facial is humiliating. And unfortunately, the porn world has largely gone in that direction, celebrating an aggressive and disrespectful attitude toward the woman, with name calling and slapping, and genuine hatred. And that sucks. But you can find some porn out there with girls who are treated with respect, and who are clearly enjoying giving a show, taking a facial, and being an exhibitionist about it. And you can find some porn where even if you can tell the girl is not enjoying the facial, she is at least trying to ACT like she is, meaning someone in the production realizes that a happy facial can be erotic. One of the reasons I've gotten into games and 3D art is the potential to create scenes where the female character truly enjoys all aspects of the sex, because you create her (like Christine), rather than having to cast her from a pool of mostly drug-addicted and damaged girls who are just really sad. It's stimulation of the fantasy without the intrusion of the sad reality that is commonly obvious in most real-life porn.

I could talk about why cumshots turn me on all day (which is symptomatic of a fetish, maybe), but I will stop there.

I will be so excited to hear if you and Phreaky decide to do another game, and I will be eager to offer ideas if you request them.
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Re: Life With Keeley

Postby geut » Sat, 11Dec31 11:53

Hello tlaero preaky and I'm French so please excuse my bad English. To start I want to thank you for your erotic play. They are the best, the story is coherent, the girls are gorgeous and impeccable production :crazy: . The games are of such quality that I would be willing to pay for more, yet you continue to make free which is fantastic.
My fantasy is to make wife-swapping, or my girlfriend have a relationship and have fun with another man, or have a relationship with another couple. Why not consider this for your next game? I know you hate the escalation in the X and you keep the consistency of your stories as well as realism. But in France there are over 500 000 wife-swapping which is not negligible.
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Re: Life With Keeley

Postby QcBern » Sat, 11Dec31 23:34

Greetings to all of you ! I hope that the new year brings a promise of fulfillment and contentment to you !

If I may, I would like to present a twofold request.

For several months, inspired by Tlaero and Phreaky’s previous works, I've been writting three(3) scenarios or, shall we say, short stories that I would like to share.

These are respectful and thoughtful of the wonderful fictional world that they have created (although the first one, being a trial run, may be lacking in some aspects).

I was wondering if : 1) I might be granted permission by them (You are, of course, fully credited and recognized as the originators of the concept (much like, at the beginning of a movie, you see ‘’Based upon – name of novel/series/movie - created by – name of author – ‘’ ) I respect what you have accomplished.

As an example, they were still making ‘’Star Trek’’ series even though Gene Roddenberry had passed away. You would see, in a movie or episode’s opening credits : - ‘’Based upon ‘’Star Trek’’, created by Gene Roddenberry – ‘’

2) Upon acceptance of the first condition, I would like to ask Shark and his moderators a particular request: since what would be divulged would be in direct relation to the games that Phreaky and Tlaero have presented in the ‘’All sexy games’’ section, I would ask If I may be allowed to submit these stories in the same topic, by creating a new thread there.

I have to admit, fans would immediately spot this and recognize it in relation to their work. Passers’s by (those only wishing to dip their big toe in the lagoon !) would also.

Comments thus generated could prove interesting…

Salutations / best regards, and wishing you again a happy new year,

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Re: Life With Keeley

Postby tlaero » Sun, 12Jan01 00:13

I would need more details on what you're doing. Do you want to use the characters from Life With Keeley? If so, do you want to use them as main characters or as secondary characters? In other words, is your story about Keeley and James, or about two new characters you created that, in the course of the story, talk to Keeley and James? Are you planning to create your own artwork or use the images already in the game?

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Re: Life With Keeley

Postby QcBern » Mon, 12Jan02 22:04

I understand your concern.

Bringing forth these characters and their situated settings took tremendous amounts of work from you and Phreaky: you do not want them portrayed as just anything. I understand.

First of all, let me reassure you, at least in one way: I do not possess the knowledge for computer graphic design; therefore, no artwork is involved here. These scenarios, or short stories, are merely written ones.

I guess, if we get right down to it, the heart of the matter would be how well you’d be comfortable with allowing for the characters, that you both have created, to face a different paradigm.

Would you be ok with someone picturing them becoming involved in stories where they could be choosing a different path…or having them deal with a different set of circumstances ?

You might simply say A) ‘’Heaven forbid !!!’’ B) Heaven forbid ! Welll…unless it’s tastefully done, maybe I could go with that. But the stories have to be good, and my characters portrayal be credible. But I must strictly approve ALL that shall be presented to the public C) I’ll give some leeway…as long as I don’t fundamentally object, I’ll allow it.

What would be your stance ?

See, it’s all about a shift in conceptualization…and it’s what alternate storyline fiction is all about.

There are numerous examples in popular culture :

(To the administrator and the moderators, I know that I’m straying here, but if I may, to better illustrate my point…Thanks !)

We’ve all seen TV sitcoms in which a character reminisces about when they were younger, or what’ll be when they get older. Sometimes, it’s about ‘’what if ?’’

- There precisely used to be a comic book series named like that by Marvel comics, where superheroes each had a different turn in destiny.

- Other times, it’s about an actor, portraying an important character, who decides to leave the set, then later has second thoughts. So the writers brainstorm together to find ways of bringing them back because they were so popular e.g. Bobby Ewing, portrayed by Patrick Duffy, on ‘’Dallas’’

- Same dilemma, different genre, again in Star Trek: The next generation, the character of Lt. Tasha Yar was killed off rather pointlessly. Several years later, in the episode ‘’Yesterday’s Enterprise’’ actress Denise Crosby reprises her role, her character, alive in an alternate timeline. Having being made aware of how her other self in the original timeline met her demise, faced with imminent danger, this Lt. Yar vowed to die a heroic death if need be.

- In the Doctor Who episode ‘’turn left’’, character Donna Noble is confronted by how her life – and those of others – would have been different had she simply taken that other turn at a road junction, as she was heading for a job interview.

- In the Stargate SG-1 episode ‘’Point of view’’, an alternate-reality Samantha Carter (who is a civilian Dr., not the original storylines Capt. Sam. Carter) is surprisingly shocked to find that the original storyline’s Colonel Jack O’Neill is still alive (In her own reality, he had recently been killed by the enemy). This is like a renewed chance for her. But the original Jack O’Neill doesn’t know what to make of this, and although sympathetic, he feels terribly uneasy with the whole thing; all the while Dr. Carter has enormous difficulty with letting go. Very poignant.

The concepts of Alternate-reality, Parallel Universes and Alternate timelines have often been revisited in science-fiction. Of course, Star Trek pioneered them. Here is a demonstration:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcDjnYxzfss

Stargate SG-1 also had many episodes where they were applied. Here is how they see it : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at4Nq8Ik64k

(Quite similar theories, don’t you think ?)

Here is an explanation excerpt from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_universe_%28fiction%29

‘’Typically, parallel universes fall into two classifications. The first may be more accurately called a "diverging universe" whereby two versions of Earth share a common history up to a point of divergence. At this point, the outcome of some event happens differently on the two Earths and the histories continue to become more different as time elapses since that point. (E.g. Parallels (Star Trek: The Next Generation). The second type is where despite certain, often large, differences between the two Earths history and/or culture, they maintain strong similarities. In such cases, it is common that every person in one universe will have a counterpart in the other universe with the same name, ancestry, appearance, and frequently occupation but often a very different personality. (e.g. Mirror, Mirror (Star Trek: The Original Series).’’

There is also the concept of ‘’Alternate history’’, where some events are depicted as having not taken place, or did take place, but with different outcomes, or something else took place altogether differently.

In the movie ‘’Gladiator’’, as Russell Crowe’s character, fatally wounded, dies,
he arranges for the political power of the Roman Empire to be transferred (back) to the senate. Of, course, it didn’t happen that way, but his foe, Commodus, and that one’s father, Emperor Marcus-Aurelius, did exist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCKJmJNNrbM

On the lighter side, who could forget these scenes from ‘’Forrest Gump ’’ ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSEdBNslGOk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjMVlGvCt3Q


So you see, Tlaero, there are many, many instances were the reality (or factualism) of an original storyline is altered or modified in some way.

Often, if done right, it makes for terrific stories.

I emphatically emphasize and assure you that those I have elaborated are tastefully done, and although the first one of them isn’t as polished as the other two, they introduce unique character traits (lots of them; lots of dialogue), as they go through occurrences (planned or otherwise) that are unfolding.

They are realistic, filled with human-like interaction and emotion, and rich in character history and development.

In short, Tlaero, the dignity of your characters is respected, and your work is praised. It is simply followed upon.

You do not have to endorse them, but, these conditions expressly pledged, please consider permitting them.


Thank you,

QcBern

P.S. If you have further inquiries, please let me know (you may PM me also)
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Re: Life With Keeley

Postby Greebo » Tue, 12Jan03 00:28

Fascinating Captain! (raises eyebrow) I've contemplated something along those lines myself recently, only not with respect to Keeley and company. In fact I've written about 11 pages since early December trying to get it out of my system. If it comes to anything I might present it to the concerned party for comments or rejection.
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Re: Life With Keeley

Postby QcBern » Wed, 12Jan04 07:03

Hello there, Greebo ! Hey, I didn't know you were a Vulcan ! How surprising ! :jap:

I wish you the best with your own endeavor; I hope you take it to fruition !

Best regards,

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Re: Life With Keeley

Postby tlaero » Wed, 12Jan04 07:14

Tasha Yar. The actress left the series because she felt it was holding back her career, then never showed up in anything else (to my knowledge) but a Showtime softcore porn special. Not the best choice on her part. (-:

So you want to do a text story instead of a graphical one? Why not just change the names of the characters? Then you wouldn't even need my permission. Call them "Kelly" and "Jim" and go to town.

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Re: Life With Keeley

Postby Greebo » Wed, 12Jan04 14:29

tlaero wrote:Tasha Yar. The actress left the series because she felt it was holding back her career, then never showed up in anything else (to my knowledge) but a Showtime softcore porn special. Not the best choice on her part. (-:

Why the disdain? Surely you do her an injustice?

Q: Why did they kill off your character?
Megan

DC (Denise Crosby): I wanted to leave the show. Although it was Gene's idea to have the character die. He thought it would be so shocking. I wanted to leave as I was struggling with not being able to do much with the character. I had all these ideas and couldn't do them. I was just stage dressing. I chose to leave instead of just being satisfied with that.

It seems she was a bit pissed off that Roddenbury had her killed off by the evil black blob creature with hardly a chance to do anything, rather than the warrior's death that would have been more in keeping with her character, but even in retrospect she was glad to leave at that stage -- she didn't want to be another "Uhuru" type character ad nauseum

I don't know where you get the idea that she never showed up in anything else but a "Showtime softcore porn special" whatever that means, because apart from a couple of music videos, she took parts in several of her father-in-law's films, one of which (Skin Deep) was admittedly softcore porn, but there was also Trail of the Pink Panther and Curse of the Pink Panther. She was still interested in Star Trek and apart from reprising Tasha Yar in more than one episode of ST-TNG, appeared as Tasha's half Romulan daughter, Sela, a Romulan Commander, in other episodes. According to Wikipedia, along with other Star Trek actors, she has also appeared as Dr Jenna Yar (grandmother of Natasha Yar) in the fan produced series Star Trek New Voyages: Phase II.

She has also directed and voiced two documentaries, Trekkies and Trekkies 2, as well as acting on stage,the most recent instance I know of being a production of Orpheus Descending
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Re: Life With Keeley

Postby Frogger » Wed, 12Jan04 15:42

Hi. I'm trying to download this game from Rapidshare but I keep getting this message after clicking the Free Download option:

"Download parameters invalid - please try again later."

I'm not sure why this is but Rapidshare has always kind of given me a problem. I think the trouble is that I am in Asia and some of the internet SPs have firewalls blocking these files.

Can someone please upload a copy at an alternative location? 4shared.com and mediaupload has always worked for me.

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Re: Life With Keeley

Postby tlaero » Sat, 12Jan07 04:42

Cool, I'm glad to hear she had more success than I realized. It's been a really long time, but I think Skin Deep was the show I was thinking of.

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