Virtually Date Crystal

[moonkee]

photoshoot? I've been all over the place... At party have found BOTH jacuzzis, AND Rachel after 2nd jacuzzi... can't find photo shoot or makeout session with both girls. Gotta do something BEFORE the party or at the party? Hint (don't need a full on walkthrough, just a nudge in the right direction!)

[Arnulf]

jkast91, when Crystal after the questions in the bar goes to the jacuzzi, don't enter the jacuzzi, follow her, then don't grab her ass, follow her instead again and you both will meet Rachel. Then the people all stream to the posing, but in the next picture, in the middle you have the option to go all three in the pool.[img]kator/smiley124.gif[/img]

[Metalbloke]

moonkee wrote : photoshoot? I've been all over the place... At party have found BOTH jacuzzis, AND Rachel after 2nd jacuzzi... can't find photo shoot or makeout session with both girls. Gotta do something BEFORE the party or at the party? Hint (don't need a full on walkthrough, just a nudge in the right direction!)

Do you manage to get either Crystal or the both of them into the pool? From there on it shouldn't be that hard...

Either way, you just need to play the game until you get to the option of exploring more of the building.

[moonkee]

Got that finally... thanks metalbloke. Do we get a full on 3some at the photoshoot or is that just a fantasy. I get them both naked and they kiss then leave me on my own... VERY uncool! Fun to explore though!

[qbv8]

Don't give up moonkee, there is much more to "explore" ...

[moonkee]

Found it! Man are you right there's more!

[moonkee]

Now tht the fun and games with Rachel are "discovered", any chance with the lady at the front desk at the casino? (looks hot in that outfit!).

[Budokai]

ok, i found my way to the party, got the great end after the pose contest. now i want the end with both girls, i manged to start the photoshoot, but always ends with Crystal saying it was a nice date and just that....how do i get the ending doing both of them? and the one with the blonde alone?

thanks

[MDK]

@ budo:

Are you at the PhotoShoot with both girls? If so, you just need to search around the screen some more. The options are there. Keep searching...carefully...

When Crystal leaves it is not always the end...

[Franco]

Re: TheBrain's criticisms:

Of course, this is a very early stage in the development of this game. We can expect more sophistication/complexity as the game progresses.

I don't know if it is possible, but I would like to see more variance between a choice being acceptable or the player being kicked out.

One way to do that would be by the player accumulating and losing points based on the choices he makes. If he reaches zero, he is kicked out. He can keep playing as long as he is in positive territory. It might take a minimum number of points to arrive at the sex scenes.

I know the free program, the Quest Markup Language (QuestML, (http://www.questml.com/), would allow that. It also allows text entry, etc.

[TheBrain]

Of course, this is a very early stage in the development of this game. We can expect more sophistication/complexity as the game progresses.

In my opinion, there is nothing real about that expectation. If the majority of responses the creator gets here are 'great game!' that leaves little incentive for him to change what he's doing despite the early stage of development.
All I'm saying is that criticism is not exclusive from appreciation, as long as you stay polite.

I do believe that without change this game will end up in mediocrity together with the vast majority of games in this genre.

[Bonhomie]

TheBrain wrote : In my opinion, there is nothing real about that expectation. If the majority of responses the creator gets here are 'great game!' that leaves little incentive for him to change what he's doing despite the early stage of development.
All I'm saying is that criticism is not exclusive from appreciation, as long as you stay polite.

I do believe that without change this game will end up in mediocrity together with the vast majority of games in this genre.

You are making valid points, but what games would you say are currently above this mediocrity?

I have browsed around an awful lot of games sites. Most of them have small short games which are all very similar.
I suppose I enjoyed the Booty Call series most before I discovered Shark's stuff here, and then Pusooy.

Now I am an oldie with very little software techno knowledge, and so I have no idea how much effort and work is put into these things.

I really like Shark's ideas and the 'mechanics' of his games, but I think Pusooy's images/artwork are better, or look more realistic - so ideally a combination of the two would be the answer.

I also like Ariane very much - again because the images are very good, and there is a certain challenge in the exploration.
Thus I like what chaotic has done here.

He obviously has plans for expansion, as there are two other girls showing already.
Yes it has very similar locations/scenarios to Ariane, but as has been rightly pointed out, it is hard to be totally original in this genre.

I think you are mainly suggesting that it should be more of a labyrinth of a game - with more paths, and end results.

I agree, but I would guess that makes it proportionately more complicated to produce, and requires more images.

As to Chaotic having his ego satisfied by the praise, I doubt it. I would hope it has the opposite effect and encourage him to get the two other girls up and 'working', and add and increase the paths and routes in Crystal.

What we may be able to help with is trying to suggest new scenarios or ways of expanding the game.

We have had one question already, about the hotel receptionist? There's an opportunity - Chaotic has shown his abilities with Rachel, so why not have an 'opportunity' to meet the receptionist or even the greeter, again when Crystal returns from the Mall, Bar and Stripjoint?

Why not add another chance in the casino, winning more money, and maybe taking these other girls back to the room with Crystal and champagne .....................

The party side of things already has the first and bigger jacuzzi under used ....... something could happen with other guests.

After the pose-off, Izzi being the loser, could become Crystal's slave, or in fact the loser either way could become the other's slave.
Again the room Crystal gets for winning could be used in more ways.
Rachel could get invited there somehow, Izzi could be taken there too, or it could become Izzi's room if she won, with her taking/leading Crystal there.

There are also opportunities in Crystal's apartment.
The 'corner' click shows something was planned for the little closet - choice of outfits to wear perhaps?

I'd certainly like to see Crystal in the black dress you buy for her, a bit more, and that would mean she could wear the black lingerie set with the stockings - she says she doesn't wear dresses - that should change.

Anyway I have gone on long enough - I suppose I think it is a good game, and I don't think the term 'mediocrity' should be associated with it.


The ideal I think is that you may get and ending, but you are never sure that you have seen every ending. That will encourage people to carry on playing, always searching for new combinations of events.
Maybe there is one 'route' that will allow you to get Crystal, Rachel, Izzi, the Receptionist, and the Greeter having a six-some on the sofa in Crystal's apartment .......

[sharkfan]

To Chaotic: EXCELLENT GAME! Keep up the great work!

I totally disagree with TheBrain. This game is oustanding. I have spent my free time for several days playing it and it is waaaaay above almost all of the free games out there except for ArianeB, Shark, and Pusooy.

Chaotic's first post says that he wants to expand the game. Most of what Shark hears is "great game" and he made an add on. If Chaotic likes doing it and he is good at it and everyone tells him they like it, he will keep doing it and that includes adding to the Crystal story. That has to be easier than starting a whole new dating story. I look forward to anything Chaotic may make.

[astringues]

Woaw ! Bonhomie's plans for developing the game sound great !
As for now, I experienced 8 different endings :
Party
- threesome
- rachel
- grab butt and sex
- pool -> phot -> cl + bj
- pool -> phot -> cl + sex

Casino
- street -> hotel -> show penis -> bj
- street -> hotel -> show penis -> cl + bj
- street -> hotel -> strip -> sex

Did I miss something

[TheBrain]

You are making valid points, but what games would you say are currently above this mediocrity?

Before I answer, let me make it clear that I am mostly talking about game-mechanics and much less about pretty artwork. That said I think there are only a few games that really stand out: Date Ariane, Orgasm Girl and Shark's Don't Wake Her and Sensual Experiment. I might add Pusooy's Bloodheart for the sake of mixing with 'non-sexual' gameplay.
But other than those I can't remember other games that actually posed a challenge.
And even though I know Shark's and Pusooy's work is extremely popular, who can honestly say they felt their latest work was challenging? Apart from the story I feel that if you have played one of the horny afternoon games you've played them all (click the right area's, hold, repeat a few times, etc.). And as for most of Pusooy's games, how is it more than clicking and wiggling your mouse? These games are much much closer to slightly interactive stories than they are a game (takes half an hour to complete and has zero replayability).
Looking at them as stories, they are great, look extremely good, etc. But if I look at them as games, they are lacking...

I think you are mainly suggesting that it should be more of a labyrinth of a game - with more paths, and end results.

I agree, but I would guess that makes it proportionately more complicated to produce, and requires more images.

Yeah, thinking of it as a labyrinth sounds ok. I'm not sure if I agree that it necessarily a lot more work. Sure, more paths result in more work. But adding different clothing for example shouldn't lead to that much more work, even though the amount of images multiplies (that is assuming that most of it means changing the clothes and re-rendering a scene). You might even think about a foreground-background scheme, where for simple things (girl standing in front of building X) you just change the background, while keeping the images the way they are now for special scenes (sex, for example).

As to Chaotic having his ego satisfied by the praise, I doubt it. I would hope it has the opposite effect and encourage him to get the two other girls up and 'working', and add and increase the paths and routes in Crystal.

I said nothing even remote close to suggesting it was all for the sake of his ego. And of course encouragement is good, but like I said, it doesn't mean you can't give ideas on how you think the game will be better.

The ideal I think is that you may get and ending, but you are never sure that you have seen every ending. That will encourage people to carry on playing, always searching for new combinations of events.

I totally agree, exploration is what it is mostly about in these games.

To sharkfan:

That has to be easier than starting a whole new dating story.

If you got that from my posts I suggest you either read someones post with care, or just stay quiet...