The Photographer by Chaotic

[ExLibris]

Seriously, a lot of you use a Microsoft OS. Microsoft has a tendency to release non perfect OS & as soon as they found error, they release a patch to correct the error. It's the same thing, thinking that a lot of you still use it. Chaotic is fast to release a corrected version, maybe he just didn't see the errors at the time.

That's not an apples to apples comparison. Windows is a very complicated piece of software, which requires hundreds of hours of testing and bugs are still likely to slip through. Chaotic's games are exceptionally simple by comparison, and you can validate all the links and spellcheck the text in 3-4 hours of testing. That's why people are so upset. If Chaotic had set aside a couple of hours for testing (or got someone else to do the testing) we wouldn't be having this conversation because the first release of the game would have been largely bug free. That's what we're talking about here, a couple of hours of work that Chaotic didn't even need to do himself.

I'd put the gradual deterioration in the quality (ie. plot, writing, etc) of Chaotic's games down to the fact that the subscription model of the Offsite basically requires him to churn out game after game ad nausuem. However, his apparent resistance to testing his games before release is an entirely self-inflicted problem.

[dryheave]

I think I found another bug in the latest version. I definately had Grace as one of the models, but she doesn't show up at the party. I believe she is supposed to be outside, but no.

If it's some odd combination, I had Rachel, Leilani and Kelly also. Has anyone else seen this?

thanks.

[ExLibris]

I think I found another bug in the latest version. I definately had Grace as one of the models, but she doesn't show up at the party. I believe she is supposed to be outside, but no.

If it's some odd combination, I had Rachel, Leilani and Kelly also. Has anyone else seen this?

thanks.

Yes, that's a bug. The photoshoot sets the variable 'gracatparty', but partycheck30.html tests 'graatparty' (a variable that doesn't otherwise exist).

To fix edit partycheck30.html and change the line
var val1 = readVar("graatparty");
to
var val1 = readVar("gracatparty");

[Cutti]

My first post at this forum. So hello to all

Found some mor errors ...

party26.html plucheck1.html -> pluccheckt1.html
party27.html plucheck1.html -> pluccheckt1.html
party30.html plucheck1.html -> pluccheckt1.html
party31.html plucheck1.html -> pluccheckt1.html

partycheck30.html graatparty -> gracatparty

psopcheck1.html psop22.html -> psop2.html

pell17.html partcheck10.html -> partycheck10.html
pell18.html partcheck10.html -> partycheck10.html

pell21.html Go back downstairs <-> party50

pmad10.html pamd11.html -> pmad11.html


ellatparty set twice. So Ellie still at the bar and in the room
lunchend.html remove: onClick="varPlus1('ellatparty')"


area "Have a drink" with link to kitchen.html remove in:
p3way1.html
pboss324.html
sop4.html

[dryheave]

Thanks to both of you!!!

[J_I]

Such a good idea, but it really just fell flat. I'm not saying this to barb Chaotic. I've always played his games and enjoyed them (although I'm in the camp that wouldn't pay for them, to be completely honest). I feel like he's trying to mix things up, but he's going in the wrong direction.

The biggest flaw of VDG has always been that everything is skin deep, flash-forward, stock situations, etc. A BIG dating game like this is awesome in theory. In reality, though, unless it's by a very dedicated person (or people) willing to dump countless, thankless hours into it, it's going to wind up being stretched too thin. That's what's happening here. How do you have this many girls without skimming over the details? How do you come up with a dozen interesting takes on one situation?

It would be better, in my opinion, to dive into a single situation and explore a single take of it fully. Like Ellie and the boss, for example. They have this unrequited attraction. A whole game about them, at the party, where the player can get to know them (and really know them, not 'let's talk about you' 'I'm fine' 'okay, let's have sex') would be great.

The player could go down a few routes, like getting hot and bothered with Ellie thinking about it and the two of them could have frantic, horny sex to take out their sexual frustration. The boss could have a fetish for fantasizing about her employees that she feels is unprofessional, but the player and her could roleplay out an office scene where she 'takes advantage' of him. And, of course, you could hook them up and have a nice threesome.

I think what I'm getting at is that these scenes and situations need some kind of special flavor. There are 6+ sex scenes in this game, but only the one with the two girls has any sort of build up or any sort of taste of its own. I always like Rachel, too, because she has a consistent personality and she brings a particular flavor to scenes and situations. Everyone else is just a body with slightly different proportions...

So the tl;dr version is that I think Chaotic's games need:
- to dig into smaller situations rather than expanding.
- really drive the tension and attraction (both in the interactions AND the sex scenes, not just kiss/fuck/orgasm)
- And find a particular flavor that each girl/scene is exploring. Desperate, half-dressed sex is great. Slow, sweet, falling-in-love sex is awesome, too. The scenes just need to capitalize on what makes them more than slot A-tab B.

[J_I]

I meant, of course, unfulfilled attraction, as mutual, unrequited attraction is an oxymoron.

I will offer one bit of outright bitching, though. I HATE guessing games, especially when there's no clear rationale behind the answers and reactions.

"Hi, I've been consistently characterized as a kinky stripper and would love to do nude photographs for someone I just met!" "Okay. Act sexy." "Whoa, that's going too far. I'm out of here."

This is similar to the stripping game, which I've always detested in VDG games.

"Okay, I'll strip!" "Take off your boots." "What's wrong with you? I'm leaving."

[bikerboy78]

Can someone tell me how to fuck the boss?

[DiTo]

Can someone tell me how to fuck the boss?

Tell him you're a hard worker and you deserve a raise.... or were you referring to something else?

[rabbie]

"Okay, I'll strip!" "Take off your boots." "What's wrong with you? I'm leaving."

You summed up my frustrations, and made me laugh - thanks. only thing i didnt like in the ArieneB game this.

[Serge]

Bonjour

Pour ceux qui préfère le français :

https://rapidshare.com/files/3830641018 ... rsion_française.zip

Version un peu modifiée par rapport à la version anglaise.

Bon jeu.

[Josefus]

Thank you Chaotic for this game. I like it.
Thanks ExLibris for the walkthrough and thank you Cutti for find this bugs. This game is game is playable !!!!

[VillaSmith]

Could somebody pm me a walkthrough, like the game but can't get all the endings

[DiTo]

Could somebody pm me a walkthrough, like the game but can't get all the endings

That's why it is a game, guppy!!!

[Greebo]

Could somebody pm me a walkthrough, like the game but can't get all the endings

Don't worry about DiTo -- it's probably some little pilot fish she ate disagreeing with her (as if they'd dare!)

Still, while you're in these dangerous waters, it might be advisable to learn to READ! Then you might be able to look above and find out all by yourself that ExLibris quoted a quote of the entry on page 3 of this thread where ExLibris himself posted a link to his own walkthrough! Raise your eyes up either that page or this, and if your sight is true, Hallelujah, you shall be enlightened!