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Re: Pandora part I

Postby meggymiccy » Wed, 15Oct21 06:42

Really really great. Thank you for your hard work on this - you are a gifted artist. I think all the girls - especially Maggie - are gorgeous, and the experience is highly enjoyable. Well done. [img]images/icones/icon14.gif[/img]
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Re: Pandora part I

Postby Dasati » Wed, 15Oct21 10:13

Mortze wrote:
Dasati wrote:Am I the only one who thought of Jessika (briefly in dreaming with Elsa and possibly in the next mortze/tlaero collaboration) when they saw Kaori? Kaori has lighter skin but other than that. Are they the same models with different colouring or am I just seeing things?


[img]images/icones/icon13.gif[/img] Same hair only (with diferent colour). Diferent, body, diferent skin texture, diferent face.


Ah so a little bit of both then similar and me seeing things lol
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Re: Pandora part I

Postby Micky20 » Thu, 15Oct22 11:44

A great first solo effort, great game and original story. I think nikki is the best looking in the game and deserves a scene in the next game
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Re: Pandora part I

Postby draxo » Thu, 15Oct22 12:09

Hey Mortze can we get a list of all the characters u are planning building paths for each game. So for example part 1 would be Kean with Maggie and Rita, Kaori with Farik etc thanks :)
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Re: Pandora part I

Postby Mortze » Thu, 15Oct22 13:52

@all, thanks again for your support!

@draxo, it is hard to say wich relationships will happen since Pandora is an outgoing story. Kaori fancies Farik, and Roos fancies Noah. Farik has previous history with Rita. So, those are facts.
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Re: Pandora part I

Postby carloimbonati » Thu, 15Oct22 14:45

ltpika wrote:
Anaximander87 wrote:
ltpika wrote:
Anaximander87 wrote:
LRM wrote:Welcome to the Lagoon Anaximander87.
Please look closely at your post tool bar. See the spoiler tag?
You're getting very close to openly revealing things most residents would rather you not.
Proceed carefully.
LRM

Oh, i am very sorry....

So in the last playthrough i did stutter all the way or stayed silent. I did watch the movie with Maggie and she did loose her top in the pool. But she still ignores me in the end....


Do not even touch Roos in the hot tub, have sympathy for Maggie's mom


didn't touch her and the sympathy for her mum leads to the movie. Somewhere in the game i must have made a mistake, but i can't get the maggie ending.


Don't wake her up after the movie. Don't get caught spying. I don't know of this helps but ignore Rita and Farik at the end, Just go straight to dinner.


Hi, just joined because I really love this game.
Anyway as Anaximander87 I am having problems with Maggie

stuttered or stayed silent all the way to the end, didn't wake her up, didn't get caught peeping at nikki, didn't touch roos. I listened to her conversation with laura, but I didn't get the handjob. Saw her discussing with the captain. If she ignores me in the morning it means that I did something wrong?

Any help? I can't seem to find the right way :(
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Re: Pandora part I

Postby draxo » Thu, 15Oct22 15:23

carloimbonati wrote:
stuttered or stayed silent all the way to the end, didn't wake her up, didn't get caught peeping at nikki, didn't touch roos. I listened to her conversation with laura, but I didn't get the handjob. Saw her discussing with the captain. If she ignores me in the morning it means that I did something wrong?

Any help? I can't seem to find the right way :(


Maggie supposed to ignore u at the end. Just continue clicking and ignore Farik and Rita completely. There would be a scene with Maggie after that.
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Re: Pandora part I

Postby Greenleaftea » Thu, 15Oct22 17:59

draxo wrote:
carloimbonati wrote:
stuttered or stayed silent all the way to the end, didn't wake her up, didn't get caught peeping at nikki, didn't touch roos. I listened to her conversation with laura, but I didn't get the handjob. Saw her discussing with the captain. If she ignores me in the morning it means that I did something wrong?

Any help? I can't seem to find the right way :(


Maggie supposed to ignore u at the end. Just continue clicking and ignore Farik and Rita completely. There would be a scene with Maggie after that.


There isn't. I'm having the same problem.

Don't take the HJ, ignore the other girls, don't touch what's her name in the hot tub, didn't get caught spying, listened to her conversation about her mother's death and then sympathised with her about it in the Sub later. Watch the movie, don't wake her and then ignore everyone and go straight to the cabin. Game Over. I'm very close to having tried every single dialogue option available to me with her and I get nothing so I'm starting to suspect it's not me.


Same with Rita.

Followed all the advice on this forum but do not get the option to defend her when she has the argument and do not get any friendship scene.


As for general feedback, I like the game but it needs some kind of markers so the player knows who he can sleep with and what achievements he's made in the story. As it stands it's very confusing as to what you're meant to do or how well you did it.
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Re: Pandora part I

Postby ltpika » Thu, 15Oct22 19:12

Areas you guys might be fucking up with Maggie:

Wave to Maggie's reflection. You CAN get the handjob from the nurse, otherwise you don't get critical advice. You should be somewhat sexual not a total fucking loser, skipping all sex does NOT help. Roos is the only one you can't touch (but peek to your heart's content.) Ask Nikki about Maggie ignoring you. Ignore Rita and Farik, get straight to dinner.


Rita:

Unless you get the story from Farik about the accident, no friendship for you. And you only get that option if you've prioritized Rita, including the scene where you follow her after the shower peeping and acknowledge she's a big softy deep down.
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Re: Pandora part I

Postby Greenleaftea » Thu, 15Oct22 19:27

ltpika wrote:Areas you guys might be fucking up with Maggie:

Wave to Maggie's reflection. You CAN get the handjob from the nurse, otherwise you don't get critical advice. You should be somewhat sexual not a total fucking loser, skipping all sex does NOT help. Roos is the only one you can't touch (but peek to your heart's content.) Ask Nikki about Maggie ignoring you. Ignore Rita and Farik, get straight to dinner.


If you mean the reflection in the sub when the Helicopter is on approach and you're asked to move then yes, done that. Fondled the breasts, fainted and seen the scene with Maggie and the dildo. Tried both the Hand Job and not the Hand Job, it didn't make a difference. Tried admitting to being a virgin and pretending to not be, it made no difference. Tried all three dialogue choices in the hot tub (the boobs comment is a classic btw) and it made no difference. Stared at the tits, stared at the pussy, it made no difference. Watched the blonde masturbate and didn't get caught and walked away from the blonde before she does. It made no difference. Watched the movie and woke Maggie and watched the movie and didn't wake Maggie, it made no difference.


Rather than offering helpful tips, offer a walkthrough so I can test whether the game is broken. I played the game on Play Force One and a lot of people are complaining about not being able to get Maggie so there is a possibility that the game is somehow bugged.

ltpika wrote:Rita:

Unless you get the story from Farik about the accident, no friendship for you. And you only get that option if you've prioritized Rita, including the scene where you follow her after the shower peeping and acknowledge she's a big softy deep down.


Got the volt meter and followed Rita immediately. Didn't grab the luggage, helped Rita. Told her I understood her intenseness and she replied how we'd get along well. After spying through the wall I have tried everywhere on the screen, there simply is no option to follow Rita, only to go back to spying and follow her through narration right before Maggie enters the room. During the breakfast argument I get no option to defend Rita. Tried to speak to her when she's upset but get yelled at no matter what dialogue option is chosen. Spoke to Farik about her but he refuses to be specific. Go to my Cabin, game over.


Same as above. People complaining they can't get her scenes. A walkthrough will determine whether its bugged or at least allow us to understand where we're going wrong.
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Re: Pandora part I

Postby Greenleaftea » Thu, 15Oct22 21:21

I had an idea. Here's my walkthrough for Maggie. Tell me where I'm going wrong.

Start
Continue
Continue
Continue
Continue
Look at the Door
What do you mean?
Are those her? [Optional]
Continue
Errr..
Take the Volt Meter
Up to Upper Deck
Join Rita
Here
She's presenting you with a great view
Look right
Get a better look at the trio
Look at the girl
You can't stop staring at her
Here. Are those...
Yeah...I'll just...
A Helicopter?
I don't think that matters...
You knew she would...
Come on Rita, a Helicopter!
You see the cute girl in the reflection
Keep staring
Smile at her
Wave
Look better at the girls
Look up too
Continue
Continue
Continue
Continue
Step away
Not to mention her bottom
Look back
Look at your left
Take the luggage

Continue down the hall
That's OK, I got this
Keep quiet and listen
Look at the girl
A Child?
What will the man do?
Step away
Err, yes
Leave the luggage
Look around
Look at the blonde
You are very welcome
Mmm?
OK, I guess
Keep listening
Err...
Say what?
He does have a point [the tattooed chick is the hottest btw]
I see
Look at the professor
What was that language?
Keep listening
Keep listening
Continue
That's us
Say Hi
Listen to the Captain
Keep listening
Continue
She is...
Continue
You might have to.
Clap along
Wait to see who's interested
Continue
Sure!

Help Farik
Follow him
Yeah...O.K.
Gather your courage
Err...
Yes...
I'm Jean Keong. [have tried both choices, makes no difference]
That's the air gauge.
Keep watching
Continue
Continue
Maggie wants to ask you something
Well that depends
No, I am kind of...afraid [have tried both choices, makes no difference]
Turn your attention back to Maggie.
Yes. Can you believe it?
You can't find what to say.
You would like to know too.
See what the girls do.
We?

Continue
Look closer
Glimpse through the hole
Continue staring
Continue peeping
Try to figure out who that is
Focus on Maggie
Stay on her
Turn around quickly
I let a component drop. [have tried all choices, makes no difference]
OK, I'll look at it in a second.
Wait until she's gone.
Go back to sneak peeking
Pay attention
Continue

Look at the door
Yes, of course
Err...I am doing some coding.
Yes...yes it is.
Hmmm...I don't know
OK, ok, I'll go.
I'm right behind you.
Step in.
Sit next to Maggie
Let Maggie do the talking
Continue
Keep listening
Keep listening
Continue
Continue
Oh...OK
Keep listening
Continue
Continue
Continue
Continue
Continue
Continue
Continue
Continue
Continue
Continue
Listen to Maggie
Keep listening
Keep listening
Continue
Continue
Continue
Continue
Continue
Continue
Continue
Continue
Continue
Continue
Continue
Err...I
Continue
Continue
Continue
Continue
Continue
Continue

Go up
Continue
Go check it out
Continue
Stay hidden and listen
Keep listening
Continue
Continue
Continue
Continue
Continue
Continue
Keep listening
Continue
Continue
Continue
Continue
Wait
Go back
What is she going to do?
Stay hidden [Have also tried leaving at this point]
Focus on Nikki
Keep watching [Have also tried leaving at this point]
Leave before she notices you
Go release some steam
Keep eating half awake
Continue
Oh My...
Keep listening
Keep listening
Continue
Keep quiet
Continue
OK...
I don't know...
Go back to your cereal
Slurp your cheerios
Sure [Have tried all three, makes no difference]
I guess
Grab the stool and sit
Sure
I felt a little dizzy
No really.
Thanks Doctor.
Hmmm...no
I beg your pardon?
Errr...no
Alone...or...?
No...
Help?
It is?
I see
I don't know [Have tried all three and it makes no difference]
Girls
How...close
Then...I haven't
No...
Yeah right...
Beg your pardon
You want to...
I...I...I [Have tried all three and it makes no difference]
Please?!
Keep Watching
Marvel in silence
What are you waiting for, Kean?
Keep fondling her
Doesn't matter, touched a boob [lol]
Go check what's going on
Take a peak
Keep watching
Continue
Continue
Wait to see who is coming
Oh!
Continue
Good to know
Oh.
Keep listening
You can relate to that
Continue
Keep listening
Continue
What the?!
Quick, go back to bed
Pretend to be half asleep
Err...yes
I am terribly sorry
That is very true
I... [Have tried all three options, each has the same result - no Maggie]
No. I mean yes. [Have tried both options, same result]
Focus on her boobies
Look back
You can't hold it any more
Just let the sensations go through you [have tried both options, same result]
Yes, thank you.

Take a look
Just a peek
Stop looking
Wait to see what will happen
Keep watching
Continue
Keep watching
Continue
Continue
Keep watching
Keep watching
Continue
Continue
Continue
Continue
Get up and go work

Check who is there
Good morning
Yes. Of course [tried both options, same results]
Yes.
Mmmh...let's say
Err...yes
OK
Well.
There are four propellers.
And what about going up or down
Err...
Yes
Freeze [have tried all three options, same results]
I'm sorry anyway [have tried both options, same result]
...No
That's...[tried all three options, same result]
There is no hurry
Maggie, I...
I'm...I'm sorry about your Mother
I heard you
Maggie, anyone would be sad
Cry or don't cry
Do, or do not
That's Yoda
Old l?
It's not a book.
Yes! Exactly!
A haircu?
No.
No! No!
Look back at Maggie
Of course!
Sure, let's do it. [tried both options, same result]
Follow Maggie
Stare at her ass
Follow her up
Put the computer on the table
Turn it on
Close the video.
I'm sorry [tried all three options, same result]
Err... [tried both options, same result]
Yes...sometimes [tried all three options, same result]
Shoot
No...never
Stay silent
Sure.
I know.
Enjoy
Look closer
Let her sleep [have tried both options, same result]

Continue
Continue
Err..UCL
Aloha! [tried both options, same result]
Yes.
Err...
Continue
Continue
OK, OK
Do as you're told

Wait for the girls
Look at them as they pass by
Continue
Continue
Continue
No. No. Right.
Oblige
Appreciate the moment
Hope this lasts forever
Give it a better look
You blood stream starts to go south
I...I...
No...I just
Continue
Beer?
Make some room for Nikki
I surely needed that
Can't contest that
That's a shame
Continue
Wait to see where this is going
Errr.... [have also tried "I promise" but got the same result]
Wait for Maggie's decision
Oh My...
Thank you dear God!
Try not to meet her stare
Try to focus
Continue
No, I don't have boobs [also tried a straight up no but it makes no difference]
Continue [have also tried "Oh Boobs!" and "Oh, more boobs!" but neither makes a difference]
Wait for them to answer
Yep. No answering that too.
Boobs again! [Also tried "no way" but it makes no difference]
What is Roos doing?
Don't miss it
Freeze this image on to your mind
Continue
Continue
That's true
I think...
Yes. Goodnight you all.
Hmm...yes, I guess
If she insists
Continue
Continue
Errr...no
Continue
What do you mean?
What!?
She looks amazing
Look, you're drunk
No, really Roos
You're welcome Roos.
Pick your computer up and go the toilet
Continue

Look around
Continue
Look up
Wave at Maggie
Continue
Go work
Sit down and get busy
Err...no
Maybe...
If you say so
Let him continue
Remain silent
Ouch!
Keep working
I don't, really
All is well for now
Get a better view
This deep
Yes, I mean [have tried both options, get the same result, i.e. no Maggie]
No, I can't find
How so
I...I hope so
Thank you, bye

Climb the stairs
Hey Rita
Let her be and go eat
Go have dinner

Just Relax
Game over
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Re: Pandora part I

Postby Mortze » Thu, 15Oct22 21:41

@Greenleaftea, so I tried to play Pandora on PF1 to see if there was any bug related to Maggie and Rita paths and I acheived the best paths for both of them, so I do not think there is something wrong with the game there. Maybe you missed something.

I look at your steps and stoped reading by the middle. It became clear that you missed some things, or did not choose the right dialogue.
There are 2 variables leading to the full Maggie path, and they are representative to 2 of Kean's personality traits. One is more important than the other sure, but you need to acumulate a small ammount of points from the later too. In this game, being totally defensive, trying not to do anything that might upset Maggie is a bad strategy. Maggie will be atracted by another trait of personality too, even if it's in a lower ammount. I know this is vague, and you guys don't know what variables I'm talking about, but I can't say much more. This isn't a black or white game, and Maggie isn't a totally prude girl. She is looking for a partner in her discoveries and you should act like the perfect candidate.
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Re: Pandora part I

Postby Greenleaftea » Thu, 15Oct22 21:43

Mortze wrote:@Greenleaftea, so I tried to play Pandora on PF1 to see if there was any bug related to Maggie and Rita paths and I acheived the best paths for both of them, so I do not think there is something wrong with the game there. Maybe you missed something.

I look at your steps and stoped reading by the middle. It became clear that you missed some things, or did not choose the right dialogue.
There are 2 variables leading to the full Maggie path, and they are representative to 2 of Kean's personality traits. One is more important than the other sure, but you need to acumulate a small ammount of points from the later too. In this game, being totally defensive, trying not to do anything that might upset Maggie is a bad strategy. Maggie will be atracted by another trait of personality too, even if it's in a lower ammount. I know this is vague, and you guys don't know what variables I'm talking about, but I can't say much more. This isn't a black or white game, and Maggie isn't a totally prude girl. She is looking for a partner in her discoveries and you should act like the perfect candidate.


Thanks, I wish you'd just write a walkthrough for people though. It would be so much easier. As for points, it would be helpful if that was represented on screen like in other games. It doesn't help the player if that mechanic is tucked away in the background.

Edit:

LOL the irony. I was working on a walkthrough for Rita to get advice on that and somehow have ended up with Maggie. Still think you need a walkthrough though mate, save people a lot of aggro and help them enjoy the game.
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Re: Pandora part I

Postby Mortze » Thu, 15Oct22 21:57

I decided not to show the variables for one reason. Some may say it is a good one, certainly lots will say it isn't.

First, Pandora is more a visual novel than a game. My goal was to tell you guys a story and get you to listen to it, not just click around to achieve the sex scenes (sure, that is recomended too, when replaying, I did render sex scenes for a reason too).

Secondly, it is a story about people, their virtues and their flaws. I tried to give life to them all (in proportion to their protagonism), and one part of that social realism I intended to represent are 2 major points:
a) You get to represent the character you are playing;
b) You never know what other people think of you and expect from you, since their expectations always vary.
Having variables showing that you get Maggie points by choosing this dialogue over another one isn't a true representation of realism.

That's why the game has 4 save slots. Because it isn't an easy one. You never know if you are doing alright to please the girl you like. And that's the reaslism I looked after.

It's frustrating? Yes, of course it is.

I don't know if Pandora is a game I would like to play, quite frankly. I get frustrated really fast.
But it was and still is the game I want to make.

As a side note, I am really surprised that there isn't any complete walkthrough there yet. I know people have finished all the paths there is to finish so I know the game isn't bugged, and I'd expect to have one out already by now.
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Re: Pandora part I

Postby saolo996 » Thu, 15Oct22 22:33

I don't know if Pandora is a game I would like to play, quite frankly. I get frustrated really fast.
But it was and still is the game I want to make.


Finally I could play it on PF1, first days I was stuck in database errors or timeout connections to your website.
I have to say you did a great work, I love your artworks.
And I have to compliment you for the statement I quoted, I think sometimes it's not so easy to create something the way we want, knowing we wouldn't like it as a player.

Yes, it's challenging, and yes in real life you don't have a baloon over other people's head telling your score with them. It would be nice and much more easier to relate :D

Thanks a lot!
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